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By Evan S
From: Erie, CO
Dec 10, 2011
|These buttes were considered to be a sacred Native American site from what I've been told. The western most butte is thought to be "male," while the eastern one is "female." Even the slightest wind makes them rain debris, the climbing would be terrifying.|
By Brian C.
From: Longmont, CO
Feb 26, 2012
|Climbed this again yesterday (2/25/12) by a different route. South face went at about 5.4 C2X and was just as scary as the other face. Nobody had been up there since my last climb last year.|
May 26, 2013
No point in going out there anymore…from the moment you leave New Raymer and make your way along the Pioneer Scenic Byway, all you are going to see are gas wells and huge multi-pad wells (on National Land!) and an unbelievable amount of truck traffic going in and out of the wells, so the roads have been made way worse than I have ever seen.
For the first almost 75 miles of our drive up to and past the Buttes, there is hardly a space to stop without looking at wells and traffic. If you (like me) used to take the little side roads and follow the washes…forget it! They are all gas access roads now. I could not find a single place to drive in as we passed through the whole of eastern section going west.
100 miles of driving and we saw two antelope and zero birds of prey.
They should start taking down the scenic byway signs soon…it’s just a cruel, sad joke that these companies have been allowed to do this to hundreds of square miles of what was pristine prairie, it's obvious that they (gas & oil) are working 24/7 putting these rigs in place before the environmental impact study can come out (due in 2014).
It’s is an absolute disgrace that this has been allowed to happen, this land can never be returned to the condition it was in…it has been for all intent and purpose been defiled and destroyed.
By the Descender
From: . . . CO
Dec 13, 2013
Right on, Evan and Brian. I climbed those horrid stakes and steel spikes years ago. . . great fun!
Brian, don't know where you got that cowboy-climber pic, but it rocks!!
Charlie, take a sip of corn-mash and relax.
". . .the condition it was in", was tilled and sown and harvested, blown away and blown back, built and burnt and rebuilt and reburnt, trampled every-which-way, heavily-used, highly-overgrazed, bisected and trisected and quadsected and 5-9sected by roads and trail and paths, and surrounded by windmills and holding ponds and irrigation ditches and fenceline, and acre-upon-acre of invasive weeds. There were wars and massacres and pursuits of every flavor. . . hell, the Jews likely tracked Jesus through here! I believe Moroni was created via a bison antiquus rib and a shard of calcite just south of Briggsdale. Before all that, T-rex tore the throat out of a giant sloth and then skull-f***ed an Allosaurus at the exact confluence of Wild Horse Crk and S. Pawnee Crk. . . . The place has a past.
The rigs will come and go, their holes sealed up, and their temp roads graded and sown. Next time you drive your vehicle all the way out there, it will be "cured" - and you'll be able to afford the fuel to do so, still. . . er, I hope.
Don't get me wrong, I wish we didn't have to see that "industrialized crap" too. Believe me.