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By daniel arthur
From Auburn,Al
Mar 12, 2012
NW Couloir of Mt.Helen in August 2012

So I am thinking of getting a R1 hoody, but am interested in what other folks are wearing as a similar piece. I am looking for something versatile with balaclava hood and preferably thumb loops that isnt to heavy to wear while active. Let me know what you guys are wearing and why you think it's better than the R1. Thanks for the input.


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Mar 12, 2012

I have 2 R-1's, a first gen. that still kicks ass and one i got for x-mas last year and love'em both. The R-1 is my second got to piece, the first got to piece is a little minx down the street.


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By matt davies
Mar 12, 2012

Check out the Melanzana Micro Grid Hoodie www.melanzana.com/
It doesn't have thumb loops, but it's got a nice kangaroo pouch which is good for drying gloves and such. The hood is way more comfortable than the R1, although it is a little bulky under a helmet. You can even wear it around town and not look too dorky. Way more versatile than the R1 hoody, in my opinion.
The R1 is better for climbing, though. The hood fits under a helmet just a wee bit better, and it fits a bit more snug for layering.


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By climber73
From Fort Collins, CO
Mar 12, 2012
Belaying at Ouray

I went to a clinic that Steve House put on a few years ago during the Ouray ice climbing festival. He brought the pack and much of the gear that he used for Himalayan ascents to that point. His clothing layers included the R1 hoody. It looked like a great functional piece of clothing... long story short I now own 2 of them and don't head to the mountains in the winter without one on.


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By climbskihike
From Bay Area, CA
Mar 12, 2012

I'm a big fan of the R1 hoody. The OR Radiant Hybrid hoody looks pretty close except it has a full zipper, and a lighter fabric under the arms. Haven't tried it out but it looks nice. I like the pullover style though for low bulk under a harness and other layers so I went with the R1. For what it's worth, the outdoor gear lab guys said the R1 is better, but the OR is more durable.


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By Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Mar 12, 2012
Cleo's Needle

If they made an R1 in merino I'd buy one. Every R1 style hoody I've tried just didn't fit like an R1.

What I like about the R1 is:
-Athletic fit (unlike most of Patagonia's clothes)
-1/4 Zip
-lightweight lower fabric to reduce bulk when tucked in
-Balaclava style hood that fit slim and tight

If you want something other than Patagonia take a look at MEC. Otherwise the rest of the market just doesn't functionally stand up to the R1.

www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/MensClothing/Fleece/PRD~5024-045/mec->>>


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By bearbreeder
Mar 13, 2012

^^^ mec hoody, polartec powderdry, 1/2 zip, thumb loops, less than 1/2 the price, made in canada


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By Kai Larson
From Sandy, Utah
Mar 13, 2012
Tour Ronde North Face

The fit of the MEC hoodie is not the same as the fit on the Patagonia hoodie. I didn't like the way the hood on the MEC piece felt. It was not as comfortable on me as the Patagonia version.

the MEC R1 pants equivalent, however are better than any others I've used. I especially like the lighweight low bulk fabric on the calves.


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By Ryan Williams
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From London (sort of)
Mar 13, 2012
El Chorro

Another vote for the R1. I have a pullover (no hood) and have worn it on nearly every big rock climb I have ever done. You can wear it as a mid-layer or next to your skin and it fits well enough to go under a shell w/o bunching.


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By -sp
From East-Coast
Mar 13, 2012
Buenos Dias!

Ryan Williams wrote:
Another vote for the R1. I have a pullover (no hood) and have worn it on nearly every big rock climb I have ever done. You can wear it as a mid-layer or next to your skin and it fits well enough to go under a shell w/o bunching.


I hate these threads - just when I think I have everything I could possibly want for gear and clothing...


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By Robert Buswold
From Longmont, CO
Mar 13, 2012
Clear Creek Canyon, Capitalist Crag

Check out the Salomon Swift hoody. I absolutely love mine. It has thumb loops, finger warmers that fold up into the sleeves, a quarter zip, pocket in the back, and chest pocket. It fits snug enough to not be bulky while climbing or hiking, and layers well. Plus, it's cheaper.

www.summithut.com/products/mens-swift-midlayer-hoody/?gclid=>>>


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By Adam Fernandez
From Matawan NJ
Mar 13, 2012
Pinnacle Gully in the background

Anyone have experience with the Mammut Eiswand hoody? Curious if it's worth the big price tag and if it is even good for layering like the R1 is.


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By Ryan Williams
Administrator
From London (sort of)
Mar 13, 2012
El Chorro

-sp wrote:
...just when I think I have everything I could possibly want for gear and clothing...


That will definitely never happen.


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By daniel arthur
From Auburn,Al
Mar 13, 2012
NW Couloir of Mt.Helen in August 2012

Thanks for the input folks, a couple additional questions:

1) As I am going to have to order one from online I would like to get the size right the 1st time, so I am 5'10" 165#, I think a medium will fit but wanted to see if there was anyone out there with a similar frame could confirm.

2) Also does any one use First Ascent's Bat hang hoody or the Hangfire hoody,or what about Ibex hooded indie, RAb baseline, and I remember one time finding a similar hoody but the zipper was off center, anyone familar with this?


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By JMo
From Tucson, AZ
Mar 13, 2012
vertebrae roof

Rab ps zip fits tight stretches and is windproof. Better for multi pitch than the r1 b/c of the windproof


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By APBT1976
Mar 13, 2012
Black Dike 12/25/11

Just go R1 it is no fail piece of gear and decision.

I personally like other brands for various reasons but the R1 hoody and mens Alpine Guide Pant are two pieces that Patagonia has done 100% right.

Both are always in my gear bag anf both get used more than they do not.

You can go Rab Eddie Bauer North West Alpine but imop they are not made half as well.


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By Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Mar 13, 2012
Cleo's Needle

bearbreeder wrote:
^^^ mec hoody, polartec powderdry, 1/2 zip, thumb loops, less than 1/2 the price, made in canada


Not with the $20 of Canadian shipping they charge. You can find an R1 Hoody on sale for the same price.


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By superkick
From West Hartford, CT
Mar 13, 2012
Free Solo up hitchcock gully WI3

The new ueli steck MH style r1 hoody looks pretty awesome though pricey.
www.mountainhardwear.com/Men's-Desna™-Hoody/OM4511,default,p>>>

Northwest alpine makes a good version r1
nwalpine.com/black-spider-light-hoody

Also the mammut yukon tech jacket is another good choice.
www.trekkinn.com/outdoor-mountain/mammut-yukon-tech-jacket/1>>>

All of these are pretty awesome pieces


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By mugsy
Mar 13, 2012

daniel arthur wrote:
Thanks for the input folks, a couple additional questions: 1) As I am going to have to order one from online I would like to get the size right the 1st time, so I am 5'10" 165#, I think a medium will fit but wanted to see if there was anyone out there with a similar frame could confirm. 2) Also does any one use First Ascent's Bat hang hoody or the Hangfire hoody,or what about Ibex hooded indie, RAb baseline, and I remember one time finding a similar hoody but the zipper was off center, anyone familar with this?


Hey Daniel, you will not be disappointed with an r1. I am a bit bigger than you and I am right between a medium and large, so the M should be perfect for you.


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By daniel arthur
From Auburn,Al
Mar 13, 2012
NW Couloir of Mt.Helen in August 2012

How do the Salomon Swift and NW alpine spider stand against the wind?


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By J. Amundsen
Mar 13, 2012

daniel arthur wrote:
Thanks for the input folks, a couple additional questions: 1) As I am going to have to order one from online I would like to get the size right the 1st time, so I am 5'10" 165#, I think a medium will fit but wanted to see if there was anyone out there with a similar frame could confirm. 2) Also does any one use First Ascent's Bat hang hoody or the Hangfire hoody,or what about Ibex hooded indie, RAb baseline, and I remember one time finding a similar hoody but the zipper was off center, anyone familar with this?


I have a Patagonia R1 flash and an original FA Hangfire Hoody. The Flash is a bit slimmer fit than the normal R1. I got it for sale once for $50. I got the Hangfire Hoody for $50 as well. I weigh 145lbs and am 5'10" and have a medium R1 and a large Hangfire Hoody.

The R1 is super-durable. However, I actually prefer the Hangfire Hoody. The FA piece just fits me disturbingly well. That being said, it's more complicated. Three different pockets and tons of varying materials and stitching is just more opportunities for failure. One of the main reasons I wear it over the R1 is that the R1 just seems to bunch up anything I wear beneath it, while the FA piece has full zip and goes over a base layer extremely well.

I don't think you can go wrong with the R1. Check out your local Eddie Bauer store, though. They were having clearance and that's when I picked up the hoody for half off. A word of warning: the medium will definitely not fit you. I'm skinny as a rail, and I needed a large.


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By S Denny
From Carbondale, CO
Mar 13, 2012

you're overthinking this purchase. buy an R1.


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By bearbreeder
Mar 13, 2012

Ray Pinpillage wrote:
Not with the $20 of Canadian shipping they charge. You can find an R1 Hoody on sale for the same price.


take a climbing trip to the bugs/squamish/rockies ... or move to commie cananda ...problem solved

its not like the R1 is ALWAYS on sale in the size and colors you want ... often times they are or arent depending on yr luck ...

www.spadout.com/p/patagonia-mens-r1-hoody/


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By JulianB
From Florence, SC
Mar 13, 2012
Mt. Rainier summit.

Do you have any local shops where you can try stuff on? It's always good to find the best cut possible for your body shape.

Personally I like the OR Radiant Hybrid Hoody a lot more than the R1 for fit and construction, plus it's cheaper.


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By daniel arthur
From Auburn,Al
Mar 13, 2012
NW Couloir of Mt.Helen in August 2012

S Denny wrote:
you're overthinking this purchase. buy an R1.


You call it overthinking, I call it passing time at work...

I will probably buy a R1, this was just an attempt to try and find something I didnt know about. I really like the NW Alpine Spider and the Salamon piece. Before this thread I was unaware of them.

@Julian: No not really. That is why I asked folks with a similar frame about sizing. Going to have to make an educated guess, and make certain wherever I buy from has a good return/exchange policy.


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By Chris Plesko
From Westminster, CO
Mar 13, 2012
OMG, I winz!!!

Daniel you want a medium R1. I'm the same size as you essentially and a medium is perfect.


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