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By DianeB
Sep 9, 2013
To the jerk who stole my pack yesterday at Lovers Leap, you're a real a$$hole! I'm glad you just lucked out with some nutella(even though I was reeeeeallly looking forward to it)...

I just want you to know that you stole from a very nice person! I hope you feel really bad. Sigh...

D-bag

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By Ryan Kempf
From Boulder, CO
Sep 9, 2013
Ryan on the Sharks Fin wishing he was on Mt. White...
Created an account simply to call out the animal that ate your hazelnut spread? I'm sure your a nice person but Squirrel hate is still a hate crime.

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By vincent L.
From Redwood City
Sep 9, 2013
First day of school
What are the details? Was it stolen from the campground , base of a route ?

I think the usual way about it is to describe what was lost , and a "be the lookout for" etc.

Sorry about the loss ...

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By AndrewB
From Davis, CA
Sep 9, 2013
Pitch 1 of East Face of Whitney right as the sun c...
Sent a PM. It was picked up by someone who had been told it had been sitting there unmoved all weekend. I'm sure he'll get it to you.

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By DianeB
Sep 9, 2013
Ryan Kempf wrote:
Created an account simply to call out the animal that ate your hazelnut spread? I'm sure your a nice person but Squirrel hate is still a hate crime.


I'd be very impressed to see a squirrel carrying out a pack on its back, not leaving anything behind. Poor little guy needed my sweater too I guess? Squirrels these days!

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By DianeB
Sep 9, 2013
AndrewB wrote:
Sent a PM. It was picked up by someone who had been told it had been sitting there unmoved all weekend. I'm sure he'll get it to you.


Great news! :) I just put it there that morning but..besides the point! Thanks!!

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By stonewalker
Sep 9, 2013
I guess I'm a jerk. I want to state that my intention was to try and find its rightful owner and return it. I was told by some other climbers in the area that it had been there "for ever". I took that to mean someone mistakenly left it behind. Inside was a Camelback water bottle, a sweater, sunscreen and yes, I still have your Nutella unopened. I found the pack on the trail half way to lower buttress just laying on the ground. In retrospect, I guess I should have ignored it and moved on. I apologize for robbing you of your sweet treat but please understand, I had the best intention of trying to reunite the pack with its owner. I read posts all the time of left behind gear that never gets recovered, at least this will work out in the end and you will get your pack back. Send me an email at photosapien@hotmail.com and we can work out the details of this reunion.

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By Ryan Kempf
From Boulder, CO
Sep 9, 2013
Ryan on the Sharks Fin wishing he was on Mt. White...
stonewalker wrote:
I apologize for robbing you of your sweet treat.

So your the squirrel master?
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By Zirkel
From Bishop, CA
Sep 9, 2013
Owens Gorge.  Mt Tom in background.
DB- Maybe, in the future, hang your pack in a tree to avoid any confusion? Otherwise glad you got your nutella back.

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By Allen Sanderson
From Oootah
Sep 9, 2013
Stairway To Heaven - all the way to the Pearly Gat...
DianeB wrote:
I'd be very impressed to see a squirrel carrying out a pack on its back, not leaving anything behind. Poor little guy needed my sweater too I guess? Squirrels these days!


A squirrel might not but a marmot could, and bear most certainly would.


But one does wonder with so little in the pack why leave it behind while climbing?

Zirkel wrote:
DB- Maybe, in the future, hang your pack in a tree to avoid any confusion? Otherwise glad you got your nutella back.


No take the damn thing with ya. Especially when it has food (sunscreen) and sweaty things like sweaters in it that would attract animals.

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By Tom-onator
From This Galaxy
Sep 10, 2013
Tom-onator
Mayhaps we should all adopt the practice of duct taping our gear to the nearest tree or boulder at the base of our objectives.
Bring a felt pen along and write the date, your name / number and any other pertinent information on the tape.
This way one could identify chew and tear marks (finger prints) on the tape to more readily identify the thieving bastards!
10 to 20 wraps of duct tape (YMMV) should identify these items as temporarily left behind, not lost.

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By Evan Riley
From San Francisco, CA
Sep 10, 2013
A lovely chimney
I walked past this pack on Sunday on the way back from the lower buttress. I was pretty sure that someone had accidentally left it as it was just sitting on the ground next to the trail.

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By SirTobyThe3rd
Sep 10, 2013
Hello
Friend and I did SW face of Conness earlier this year. I left my pack by the descent gully, and also left out my tshirt (wanted it to dry since we hauled ass on the approach). When I got back my shirt was ripped to pieces, and pack was gone. Marmots love sweat. I was lucky I did not place my car keys in there!

Anyway, hope that asshole rots in hell. Stealing nutella is a dick move!

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By ScoRo
From Portland, OR
Sep 10, 2013
Ahhhh, remember the hair and pay tribute to it.
Read thread before posting...

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By Aerili
From Salt Lake City, UT
Sep 10, 2013
The West Desert...it's not just for climbing, suck...
It's totally standard at the Leap to leave your pack off any of the approach trails. I always taught Leap newcomers to do so (although, yes, I always hang the pack...the critters there are relentless and have been known to steal entire jars of mustard out of packs and chew large holes too).

The reason climbers often do not take their packs to the base is because the walk-off from the m/p routes does not pass by the base of any walls.

My normal routine was: do route --> walk off --> pass by pack and eat a snack --> walk up and do another route --> walk off --> snag pack on way out. Clear now?

All's well that ends well.

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By vincent L.
From Redwood City
Sep 11, 2013
First day of school
With all due respect Aerili you should get out of the teaching business . Why would you encourage people to leave their possessions and food out in the open on the side of the approach trail ?

It doesn't strike me as a common or 'standard' practice , at Lovers or anywhere else....

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By CJC
Sep 11, 2013
hey those sandwiches are heavy man. especially those footlong hoagies.

so you can teach laziness...always thought it was something you were born with.

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By Zirkel
From Bishop, CA
Sep 11, 2013
Owens Gorge.  Mt Tom in background.
vincent L. wrote:
It doesn't strike me as a common or 'standard' practice , at Lovers or anywhere else....

It IS a common and standard practice at Lovers Leap.

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By Ryan Nevius
From The Range of Light
Sep 11, 2013
Mt. Agassiz
Zirkel wrote:
It IS a common and standard practice at Lovers Leap.


Maybe because most of the climbers are visiting the area? The locals I've climbed with either wear the pack or stash it somewhere out of the way. Leaving it on the trail, or even at the base of a climb is just bad practice.

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By Aerili
From Salt Lake City, UT
Sep 11, 2013
The West Desert...it's not just for climbing, suck...
Yes, it is very, very common to see packs hanging in the trees off the trails. And those are only the packs we see.

Vincent, did I say I leave my stuff "out in the open" right on the side of the trail? It is not hard to hang a pack out of direct and casual view a few steps into the woods there. Where do you think I learned this practice? I made it up?

The base of most walls at the Leap are not wide and accommodating for numerous packs to be strewn around. Also, there are virtually no trees at the base and so leaving your shit on the ground means critters can easily rip into it. Hence, "the standard practice". Either that or you rack up at the car/campground and walk in with nothing larger than a small day pack. For me personally, I rarely did this if I had multiple routes/walls planned.

It's not about being lazy. It's about being efficient and keeping your stuff secure from animals. I've hung my pack both in plain view and out of view numerous times with no issues. Packs are simply not stolen on a regular basis at the Leap, whatever you may think.

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