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Overhanging Layback 

YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b

Type:  Trad, 2 pitches, 180'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b [details]
FA: 1946: Fritz Wiessner and Bill Shockley
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Submitted By: bryan barnett on Nov 4, 2008

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BETA PHOTO: P2 - Large flake (3ft long) broke off below roof

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1. Climb the corner to the overhang. Step right and then up and left - a tricky move. Continue left past an optional tree belay to small ledges below a face near an outside corner.

2. Climb left and up the face, past a large flake, to an overhang. Climb through the overhang, then another overhang, and up right to the GT Ledge and tree belay.


At the large right-facing corner uphill and right of the McCarthy Wall (Coexistence et al.).


Standard Gunks rack. Rappel from tree - be careful to move your knot below the notch, as stuck ropes have happened.

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Ok view of 2nd pitch.
BETA PHOTO: Ok view of 2nd pitch.
First pitch...
BETA PHOTO: First pitch...
P1 of Overhanging Layback
P1 of Overhanging Layback
P2 - broken-off flake below roof.
BETA PHOTO: P2 - broken-off flake below roof.

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By - - -
May 21, 2009

The "optional belay" tree in the corner is dead. It still has slings on it though. A better descent option to rap from the tree at the top of P2 to the bolts that are 25ft left of you when you're at the P1 belay. I'm not sure what route that is - something just right of co-ex.
By losbill
Sep 6, 2010
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b PG13

Beware of the white flaky rock beneath the first overhang on pitch 2. Most of it flexes and wobbles when you pull or step on it which can't be avoided as you step up to the overhang. Go lightly. A large block off to the left is completely detached and just sitting on the block beneath it.
By Johan
From: Seattle, WA
Oct 22, 2012

I recently got a rope stuck on the rappel off of this route, at the notch right at the top lip. I noticed that a previous tick here on MP says the same happened to them. So: be mindful of your rope flossing that notch. It's definitely best to bring the knot down with you past the lip. Double 60m ropes will still get you down to the ground even if you bring the knot down past the lip in this way.
By Jon Booth
Oct 8, 2013
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

While my partner was coming up, a large flake (~3ft long) broke off, just below the roof on P2. It seemed like a highly used hold, as it was covered in chalk. I posted a couple of pictures for a better description. Oct 5th, 2013.
By Daniel Israel
From: Montreal, Quebec
Mar 28, 2014

Yeah, a very nice route I thought. Kind of epic. And not too bad for the grade either.
By gblauer
From: Wayne, PA
May 9, 2014

Lot's of loose rock on P2. Tread lightly!
By Gunkiemike
Aug 19, 2014

There is now nothing left of the tree at 80 ft that the grey Dick mentions. There's a clump of medium-size trees w/ rap slings 20 ft higher, and a 60m rope will get you down from there.
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