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Hello all,

My name is Ike Buckland and I ran into a sticky situation on this route yesterday (sunday the 28th) where my rope became stuck on the last pitch. It's hanging from a number four camalot and I was wondering if anyone came across it. My email is ikepc1@gmail.com and my phone number is 6504832864. If someone has picked this gear up I would very much appreciate getting it back.

Thanks

Definitely a great route, diverse and with good, committing moves for the grade. I'd caution the inexperienced trad leader to take advantage of each opportunity for pro on the last pitch, particularly as you approach the exit roof. Small-to-micro stoppers are helpful.

This climb was a great experience for myself and my partner. Brief history: My brother, his two sons, and I had decided to climb this back in the 90's, but we never did it as the "fear factor" engulfed us on the 1st pitch. We bailed. My partner, Chris, informed me that he wanted to do it, and so I comitted. The climb is neither as scary as people led me to believe, nor as hard to protect. Granted, I probably placed as many pieces on the last pitch as I did on all the other pitches combined, but only because the last pitch was the only sustained pitch. I broke it into 4 pitches and all of the 1st 3 pitches had good sections and weak sections. The 1st pitch initial crack (until you cross the arete) was beautiful. The early moves on the 2nd pitch were exciting. The 3rd pitch coming into the cave was magnificent, but the 4th pitch (exposed right variation) was consistent and fun and well... exposed.

The only fixed gear I saw on the route was at the cave belay (1 piton), and on pitch 2 (another piton). The belay stations at pitch 2 and 3 had slings preset around immobile rocks. There were also 2 "lost" cams on this route. Cam #1 was really lost (broken trigger) and really deep in the crack. Kudos to you if you can get it out, bad karma if you do. Cam 2 would require fingers the size of needles. I am not sure what went through the mind of the climber that placed that piece as it looked like a guaranteed loss. The protection throughout the climb was good, and it required no special gear. Standard rack would work. However a red metolius protected the parallel crack off of the pedestal very nicely.

This climb was the "classic" that I stated for the obvious reasons. 1) the length 2) good rock 3) varied climbing 4) The massive amount of exposure on pitch 4. The only detraction from this climb was the fact that there were easy section interspersed in the climb. Not enough to kill the 3 stars. This climb may become an annual ritual with me.

I loved this route. Three pitches of beautiful rock with great belay ledges. The first pitch is straight-forward and not too difficult. The start of the second pitch is the crux but the difficult section lasts only about 10 feet. The last pitch is steep with sustained 5.7 moves and is the most exciting. Protection is good on all three pitches. A large cam (#4 friend) is useful in two locations.

Great exposure. P-1 & p-2 can be done as one pitch stretching a 70meter rope. Belay just over the top under the big boulder, using a hand size cam and a smaller one

Correction. That would be p-2 & p-3 that can be combined w/70 meter rope.

Pitches 1 and 2 can be run together with a 60 meter rope, although rope drag may become an issue. P1 starts with some straightforward, easy face climbing. Plenty of no hands rests and lots of options for pro (standard rack). After crossing the arete, P1 has some interesting dihedral moves, but nothing too difficult.

P2 has an interesting start. Your best early handholds are also the best chance to place pro, and you will want to get in a piece or two straight away to protect this early crux. The climbing eases up considerably after 15 feet or so.

P3 is a bit broken and discontinuous, but a nice exit into the cave belay station.

P4 is fantastic and protects well with smaller cams and nuts. Go right or don't bother doing this climb. It begins with a very comitting move out onto a face. Do you trust that foot hold? After you get on the face, the pitch is long and continuous.Make sure you bring plenty of pro, or you may find yourself faced with creative gear placement toward the end of P4.

The exit, a steep path that descends to the west, is also pretty sporty, particularly the last 100 vertical feet. You'll find yourself skidding on lots of loose shale.

meh, the last pitch was good, 1 star for the other two pitches. Kind of the standard BCC broken/ledgy climbing, not great pro. The last pitch is continuous and solid though. I guess with a few exceptions, maybe I'm just not in love with BCC trad climbing, since I've heard a lot of people say good things about this route.

This is one of the best moderates in the BCC area

$50 reward for lost cell phone. Lost 8/21 It fell down a crack in the back of the second pitch(the cave). Silver LG phone. It is about 2-2 1/2 feet down and you'll need to take a stick or a reacher or grabber to reach it. Maybe you could push it into an empty soda bottle that is attached to string or something and pull it up. Just suggestions..... Thanks to all that give it a try. If it helps you feel even more sorry for me, I got 10 bee stings just below that pitch. If by some miracle you retrieve it, call 801.783.8996 ask for LaNova

Besides the bees and the lost phone, it was an amazing climb with excellent exposure! And the view......take a camera!

November 2nd 2007-Lost Wallet/money clip. while on Outer corner on sunday, we think it fell out of the pack at the top of the climb. there should be a drivers licence for Steven Aderholt with it. if you you did the climb sunday afternoon or find this wallet please email stevenaderholt@yahoo.com

Thanks

Matt

what a great route with with seriously committing moves. Walk off kinda sucks... really sucks at the end. mind the rattlers.

The erosion we're causing could warrant some trail work there to build steps like the slips or some rap bolts to get down.

This is a really good route for moderate trad leaders or anyone who loves a good day on the rocks. all day shade, the cave belay, and the exposed juggy roof pulling on p3 come together to make a bcc classic. I agree that some kind of stairs or rappel possibility should be installed to help people negotiate the shale band gully at the end of the walk off. that thing is a slip and slide.

The best exposure I've ever had the pleasure of being on. The final pitch proves this climb worthy of its classic rating. The start of the 2nd pitch has some fun moves off the belay ledge. Be cautious of rattle snakes on the walk off. I about stepped on top of one.

Lots of talk about this climb but it's all well deserved. A classic indeed, one you'll talk about with your friends for weeks after. A note about the walk-off: Make sure you aren't doing it in the dark. It's dangerous with tons of loose rock on the final area of the descent. I slid down on my backside to prevent a fall or ankle injury, only to the demise of one nice pair of Mountain Hardware pants. Still better than an injury...

Wow, classic is all I can say! The last pitch is no doubt airy, but protects well, and is sustained good climbing. Definately do the right variation, as it makes the climb! The double crack stemming was my favorite part...

Great route, but not quite the classic I was hoping for. Several sections of crappy rock and mediocre pro detract from an otherwise awesome route. Still, a fun outing and pretty exciting. The last pitch was great, and much longer than I was expecting. As with a lot of routes in BCC, I found tricams to be especially useful.

What a great route! Always fun, whenever I do it! P1 face is fun, P2 cracks are awesome and P3 stays consistent with some sweet face climbing w/o as much gear, but it is solid.

excellent climbing, superb belay ledges, great position, ultra-classic!

Awesome route, bad day. Core shot my rope and lost a .5 bd camalot. Forgot my gear removal tool and couldn't pry it out after it walked deep into the crack. If anyone pulls it out I'd be stoked to have it back... but I'm guessing whoever grabs it will take the booty and run. ericgodfrey AT gmail DOT com if anyone finds it.

Exciting route...good climbing bottom to top. Pitch 3 is definetely sustained from the start and eases up the farther up you go. Didn't see any lost gear other than an old piton, so bring plenty of pro, especially for the 3rd pitch. Grab a buddy and go do it.

Awesome climb. However I lost my wedding ring in the parking lot and had a cam walk in right at the third pitch. If anybody finds either of those let me know.

Boisal,

Damn, I tried getting that nut out! I spent 10 minutes hammering away at it, I hate to say it but it might be in there for a while.

Mark.

This is a super cool climb! It absolutely deserves the 4 star rating. I will be repeating it.

You should definitely run the first two pitches together. The 2nd pitch is so easy that you'll only need a few pieces of pro. You should have plenty of gear to make it to the large ledge in one shot (with hardly any drag).

The crux is the start of the third pitch, but it only lasts for a few feet, then the rest of the pitch is pretty easy with only one moderate section at the end.

The 4th pitch is the most sustained, but it has plenty of rest positions, and it takes gear pretty easily. There is one slightly "runout" section on the forth pitch, but it isn't too hard. Just make sure you put in a piece before you attack it.

Overall an excellent climb. It does not deserve a PG13 or R rating. Great climb! Not as hard as everyone makes it sound. The crux might be harder than 5.7, but it is right off the huge ledge and it only lasts for 2 moves, then it eases up.

I did this climb again today after first doing it about 8 years ago, and I forgot how good it is. I think it's my favorite moderate multi pitch route in the Cottonwoods. We combined pitches 1 and 2 and then 3 and 4 with a 70, though rope drag was apparently horrendous for the last two pitches.

Great route. We did it as 4 pitches to facilitate communication. Each pitch has a little something for you. The last pitch is great. For the descent, look for the larger juniper tree with the obvious foot traffic into the gully. I saw another party downclimb early (looked ok but not great). They surfed a lot of talus. It would be great if someone rap bolted the slab behind the remnants of the sea sign. Definitely less eco damage than the foot traffic down the talus and safer too.

Um, think not. If nothing else, I think it'd promote more sport rappelling.

Rap bolting the walk-off? WTF is wrong with people these days...
How about we pave it and start a shuttle service?

It would be great is someone would pave this and start a shuttle service. I saw some people doing the walk off and it looked like it was making them tired.

Eco damage to a talus field?
thats a new one.

Like everyone says, the exposure was fun. I did have trouble finding enough good protection.

I feel like this route would be fairly difficult for a new 5.7 trad leader. If 5.7 is your limit, I'd do a few others before committing to this one. It is a phenomenal route, a lot of fun with a few really memorable moves. Really cool line.

conditions: as of March 14th, 2013 there is snow at the top that is melting onto the final section of the last pitch. This made it quite a bit spicier and I really double checked my pro before committing to the wet rocks. Both shoes and hands were wet.

Dropped a locker w/ ATC on route yesterday. If anyone finds it I would sure appreciate it.