ok so need some help i dont have a lot of money but want to get a full set of the DMM Offset nuts. i was wondering if their brass nuts where the same size as the BDs? Anyone know?

not sure about the size, but completely love my DMM offsets. they work so much better than BD stoppers for the granite in CO and the pin scars in UT that I stopped carrying BD stoppers. anyone wanna buy some stoppers???

I can vouch for the offsets in Yosemite granite. Their nuts are fantastic and absolutely bomber.

I've had both the BD and DMM. The sizing is different, the DMM brass is #0-6 and BD is #1-6. Then DMM has a alloy set #7-11. The DMM brass includes 3 tiny-tiny nuts. The BD set isn't brass but some sort of composite. They were orgionally brass but decided to change to the same material used in the BD micro nuts already made.

The DMM brass look to be better made in my opinion and for that small sizing I think brass may provide a benefit but the three smaller pieces, #0-2 are so tiny they are practically worthless. I think the BD set matches #1-6 of the DMM leaving off the #0. Also, the DMM looks to be more tapered (thinner at the thinnest part).

DMM Peenuts are alloy offsets and can be had cheaper than brassies.

The DMM Alloy Offsets with the Wild Country Superlight Rocks is a real good combo.

The DMM brass set covers a larger range than the BD micro offsets (and as someone else said there is 1 more in the set. They stick in the rock better and I believe have a bit stronger rating. I have used both and prefer the DMMs

another DMM vote here

Since I don't think the set pricing really saves much, just get the 2 largest brass and the 3 smallest alloy ones to start. Those are the sizes that you would most likely use the most. The smallest brass ones are really aid only pieces, or so you can see your rope run through something and convoke yourself it is safe while free climbing.

the bd brass offsets are roughly sized the same as DMM. the DMM nuts are sharper and less rounded. it means you should buy both