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North Face 

WI2 Easy Snow PG13

   
Type:  Ice, Snow, 2 pitches, 1200', Grade IV
Consensus: WI2 [details]
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Season: Late Winter or Early/Mid Spring
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Submitted By: Simon Thompson on Mar 11, 2012

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Kevin Chlad and Ben Botelho climb the final rope-l...

Description 

When it's in, this is the most continuous and sustained alpine ice climb we have in New York. It usually offers 3-5 separate lines. Catch this in the right conditions. March and April are usually best. What looks like ice from the doorstep of High Peaks Cyclery in Lake Placid can be sketchy snow-covered rock in reality so pay attention to weather patterns and trip reports.

The three most common lines are left, middle, and right. The far left side offers the easiest climbing with many trees to use for pro. The middle is the most aesthetic an can have a fun steep start on the overlap. When I climbed it the ice quality was the worst on the top half of the face but was stellar down low. The right side offers a line similar to the middle with a separate exit. The right side is generally thinner.

When you get to the face pretty much what you see is what you get. The best strategy is to simul-climb so climbers should be prepared to climb without falling on thin grade 2 ice. It would make a great solo if conditions are right. If you pick your line carefully it would be possibly to pitch it out and belay every pitch but don't get yourself stranded without a belay.

Location 

Start at the Garden trailhead and hike towards John Brook Lodge. After 3.0 miles there will be a junction. You want to go towards the Orebed Brook Lean-to/Gothics. If the water crossing is bad take the high water bridge. After a mile you will reach the Orebed Brook lean-to and you need to start paying attention to the trail. You will pass several small drainages and a cool overhanging boulder that would make a sweet bivy/bouldering area. Continue until you hit the largest of the drainages and cross to the other side. If there is a beaten trail to the North face it will usually start here. The best approach from here breaks off the left side of the trail and sticks to the right at forks in the stream for the first 5-10 minutes of the bushwhack. From hear follow the stream until you start to see the face. Obviously as you get closer you can decide to go left or right depending on which part of the face you want to climb.

Descent can be made by:
-Hiking down the Orebed Trail from Gothics summit
-Hiking down the trail over Armstrong
-Hiking down over Pyramid(this would end at a different parking lot)
-Skiing or snowshoeing the True North slide(this is the separate, lower-angle curved slide to the left of the North face)
-The proper North face has also been skied but it would be extremely difficult in most conditions

Protection 

If it's a really good year it will take some screws. Bring stubbies and many long slings. There are no fixed anchors and pro can be very difficult to come by. Most of your pro will be questionable screws or small slung trees. Some larger solid trees exist depending on which line you choose.


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She's big so take your pick of lines...
BETA PHOTO: She's big so take your pick of lines...
Left side 3/7/15
Left side 3/7/15

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By Kurtz
Mar 9, 2015

CONDITION REPORT 
On 3/7/15 we climbed the left side of the North Face of Gothics. At the bottom of the bowl, the snow is crusted with deep, very low-friction snow underneath. I have no special avalanche expertise but it worried me enough to skirt around on safer terrain. Luckily, the snow quickly gives way to thin ice, exposed rock, and just enough neve so one can climb to the top without any particular difficulty. Protection is limit to slinging trees so we soloed. Hiking and ski trails are in good shape and there is a lot of snow in the woods. It is extremely difficult to bushwhack even short distances. We descended by glissading the True North slide. Quick and fun!

North Face of Gothics
North Face of Gothics
By Luc
Administrator
From: Montreal, Quebec
Mar 23, 2015

CONDITION REPORT 
March 21st, very slim pickings, connect the smears type of climbing.
We decided not to climb, blowing snow with 70mph gusts is not a good mix simu-climbing on very little pro.
Snowshoes are still needed to head up the drainage.

That`s the most visibility we got, went downhill f...
That`s the most visibility we got, went downhill from there
By Ben Brotelho
From: Albany, NY
Feb 7, 2013

great climb...can't wait to do it again this spring!
By Jfaub
From: Ottawa, On
Aug 4, 2014

Any more beta on the descent? Specifically, any landmarks to find the trail? I've been on other ADK peaks in the winter, and if there hasn't been anyone on the peak lately, i've found that finding the correct path for the descent is a bit of a gamble.
By Simon Thompson
From: New Paltz, NY
Aug 5, 2014

With a proper topo map of the High Peaks area, the descents should be pretty obvious. The summit of Gothics isn't a very big place.
By Jfaub
From: Ottawa, On
Aug 19, 2014

Ok, good to know. Thanks!
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