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No White Flag 

YDS: 5.12- French: 7a+ Ewbanks: 25 UIAA: VIII+ ZA: 25 British: E5 6a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch
Consensus:  YDS: 5.12a French: 7a+ Ewbanks: 25 UIAA: VIII+ ZA: 25 British: E5 6a [details]
FA: Manny Rangel
Season: Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer
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Submitted By: markguycan on Apr 16, 2006

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Tim pulling the early roof


Walk south along ledge, just before Vagina Envy's chimney is an overhanging face with a roof at the top. First bolt is @ 15' up on easy rock; crux is small holds and a tips crack move.


11 bolts, rap anchor

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By Mike
From: Phoenix
Jun 30, 2009
rating: 5.12- 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a

Fun route. Sustained & pumpy. Another Iso classic.

FA: M. Rangel.
By BenClimbing
Oct 13, 2010
rating: 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a

I wouldn't call this sustained; I thought it was cruxy. Nonetheless, all of the climbing on this route is super cool and the over-all experience of this route was superb. I agree that this is classic stuff.
By nicholas bujak
May 23, 2012

Is it cheating if you pass the first roof on the right? If you go that way its not sustained? This is a great route.
By NickSch
From: Phoenix
Aug 17, 2012
rating: 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a

In my opinion this is one of the best lines out here. Very fun movement and pretty sustained with a couple cruxy sections. Definitely full value. Not to be missed.
By arjunmh
From: Phoenix, AZ
Oct 15, 2012
rating: 5.12- 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a

My new favorite, but boy is it ever a pump fest! Absolutely gorgeous movement required and stunning rock quality.
By Eric D
From: Gnarnia
May 6, 2013
rating: 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a

Excellent route on great rock. I got dive bombed twice (but not hit) by a falcon in late April. His/her nest was about 30 feet up and left from the chains. Maybe stay off of this for a few months, for your sake as well as the falcon's.
By arjunmh
From: Phoenix, AZ
Jun 18, 2013
rating: 5.12- 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a

Wish we'd read this before today -- 4 pretty well grown chicks in the nest and very irritated parents. Definitely stay away from this for the next couple/few weeks.
By NickSch
From: Phoenix
Nov 10, 2013
rating: 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a

There is a biner at the top of the dihedral towards the end. I initially thought it was booty but then realized it is there to clip into while rapping to make cleaning easier. Hopefully it will stay there as it helps a ton. Thanks to the person who let go of a bail biner for the greater good.
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