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No Manners aka Hodat 

YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a PG13

   
Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 50'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.9- French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 16 British: HVS 4c [details]
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Submitted By: JP Griffith on Jan 15, 2012

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BETA PHOTO: 1 - "Unknown bolt line" (Over The Top), 5.10.
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Description 

Here's a route if you want to scare yourself.

It starts out with some hand/fist jams, face holds, and some stemming. The pro is not bad, but it isn't great either. Once you get near the top, the rock is extremely delicate and seems about ready to peel of with the slightest tug. It is not fun to hold on or place gear here.

Location 

This is on the east face of the buttress, just to the right of "Over The Top aka Unknown bolt line".

Protection 

Medium gear up to a #4 Camalot. There are no anchors for this route, but it is possible to use the anchors for the sport route to the left with some precarious traversing.


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A shower of loose rock?  No Manners!
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By Furthermore
May 26, 2012
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

This route doesn't warrant a bomb. Pro was decent and rock was good except for some pebbles at the top. The route will be a decent route with some traffic.
By Jay Eggleston
From: Littleton
Feb 13, 2013
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c PG13

The pro was good on this and you can place a #4 Camalot. There is a lot of loose rock at the top, but over time, it will get better.
By Jay Eggleston
From: Littleton
Feb 28, 2013
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c PG13

I think this is "Hodat?" as described in the Haas and Schneider book.