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Never Believe 

YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c

   
Type:  Sport, 1 pitch, 45'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11b French: 6c Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 23 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: Greg Scott, 1995
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Submitted By: mike cork on Feb 5, 2008

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Description 

Start up steep face through a difficult move to arrive at a roof. Pull roof on good holds (wingspan helps) and continue to move up and left on jugs to shared shuts with Plush. Some good heel hooks and no-hand rests available (if you want them). Felt harder than the 11a rating from the DCA. Definitely gets your pump on.


Location 

On west side of Holiday Block, middle of face with large overhang. It's the bolted line between two other sport routes "Plush" and "Tales from the Hard Side."


Protection 

5 bolts, shuts.



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By Rob Dodson
Feb 6, 2008

Make that 6 bolts...

By Sam Lightner, Jr.
From: Lander, WY
Jun 30, 2009

And make that 11c.

By Nathan Burns
From: Dahlonega, GA
Nov 5, 2013
rating: 5.11a/b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c

11b seems accurate... none of the moves are super hard, but it is easy to pop off the deadpoint move up high. Positive holds, but pretty pumpy.