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Description 

The Needles Eye area is located along the Needles Highway next to its namesake spire and the long one lane tunnel. Besides the Needles Eye itself, many other classic spires like the Bell Tower, Hitching Post, and Bloody Spire as well as great boulders like the Thimble are in the area. Many of these routes are dangerous, but there are some classic moderates and even the odd sport route.


Getting There 

From Sylvan Lake, head up the Needles Highway. The Needles Eye is the obvious spire before the tunnel, which is usually easily identifiable by hordes of tourists milling around. Spires are scattered in the woods both up and downhill from the parking lot, and as with everywhere else in the Needles orientation is difficult on your first few visits.


34 Total Routes


['4 Stars',12],['3 Stars',15],['2 Stars',7],['1 Star',0],['Bomb',0]
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The Classics

Mountain Project's determination of some of the classic, most popular, highest rated routes for Needles Eye:
Hitching Post   5.2 3 8 II 8 D 2c     Trad, 1 pitch, 130'   Hitching Post
Moonlight Rib   5.3 3+ 10 III 9 VD 3a R     Trad, 1 pitch, 100'   The Fan
The Thimble (Backside)   5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b R     Trad, TR, 1 pitch, 80'   The Thimble
Standard Route   5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b     Trad, 3 pitches, 70'   Bloody Spire
Goldline   5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   Goldline
Summer lovin   5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   Bell Ringer
Needle's Eye   5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c X     Trad, 2 pitches, 100'   Needle's Eye
Doody Direct   5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c     Trad, 1 pitch, 70'   Gnomon
Threading the Needle   5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c     Trad   Needle's Eye
Unnamed Fenton Route   5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a     Trad, Sport, 1 pitch, 50'   Needle's Eye
The Dog and Pony Show   5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a     TR, 1 pitch, 130'   Hitching Post
Kamps Crack   5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b PG13     Trad, 1 pitch, 120'   Bell Tower
Every Which Way But Loose   5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b     Trad, Sport, 1 pitch, 120'   Bell Tower
Buck Shot Eyes and a Purple Heart   5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   Bell Tower
For Whom the Bell Tolls   5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c R     Sport, 1 pitch, 80'   Bell Tower
Horseshoes and Hand Grenades   5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a     Trad, 1 pitch, 40'   Gnomon
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Exclamation Point! Great repel.

Fenton-Oslund Route 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c  SD : Custer State Park : ... : Exclamation Point
A great trad climb with just enough of a spook factor to give it a hint of headiness and an impending sense of danger. Much more than Goldline.Starts in the boulder field. Work your way up a crack system and move to the right into a larger crack system. The crux is escaping the pod you encounter about halfway up. The protection is good here, use some larger nuts and/or some smaller cams. Once you have escaped the pod you'll find yourself at a face with some crumbly, yellow rock. Move left and ar...[more]   Browse More Classics in SD

Photos of Needles Eye Slideshow Add Photo
John's Jump....needles eye area. fall '08
John's Jump....needles eye area. fall '08
The view of the Needle's Eye area, to the North of the summit of Bell Tower. Photo By Tony Bubb, 7/'06.
The view of the Needle's Eye area, to the North of...
A view to the North-East from the top of the Needle's Eye or Bell Tower. Photo by Tony Bubb, 7/'06.
A view to the North-East from the top of the Needl...
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By Bob Archbold
Aug 13, 2002

THE AGREEMENT The Needle's climbers have always had a strong sense of approaching the rock on its terms and to also have respect for the rock and Custer State Park. About 1988, before any Black Hills Climbers Coalition, before any climber's versus land managers' issues the local climbing community had a significant watershed event meeting. Sport climbing had made a very large impact along with the power drill at Mount Rushmore. To preserve the tradition of the Needles, but not to impede on the development of Rushmore and it's new history. A survey was sent to all known climbers at the time in the area and a meeting was scheduled. This was the result of that survey and meeting.

First of all it was recognized that the Mount Rushmore area and the Needles, Custer State Park would be considered two different areas, with their own histories and ethics. The boundary between these two places was considered to be the Harney Peak - Elkhorn Ridge line. On the Mount Rushmore side it rules would apply and on the Needles side the Needles rules would apply. But none of the climber's rules or ethics could supersede the governing agency's rules and regulations. Such as Custer Sate Park and the State of South Dakota for the Needles and Mount Rushmore National Memorial by the National Park Service.

Vern Phinney and Mike Engle were the two most instrumental climbers in the starting development for Mount Rushmore. They wanted to explore styles and techniques that were not condoned in the Needles. One of the most controversial techniques that they started locally was RAP-BOLTING. Their goal was to create classic hard routes with better protection that what was customary in the Needles. _Mr. Critical was their first project. Then the Rushmore area exploded with routes from the likes of Rusty and Mike Lewis, Ron Yahne, Paul Piana, Todd Skinner, besides Mike Engle and Verne Phinney. It was during this meeting that the original Rushmore contingent expressed that the most important thing they wanted were protected routes at Rushmore. If local feelings were that a route needed more bolts they could be added by two ways. One, the first ascent party could be contacted and get permission to add bolts to a route, or two, the local area activist could agree that new bolts need to be added to a route. The bottom line is that routes need to be safe. It was asked that some discretion be used on Rushmore traditional routes versus the rap-bolted routes.

The Needles in Custer State Park was the subject of a larger discussion. It was overwhelmingly agreed that new routes needed to stay traditional. This meant that all first ascents needed to be done from the ground up, no rap-bolting. Paul Muehl would say _anybody could beat the rock into submission for a new route, but we need to be able to meet the rock on it's terms not ours_ No one disagreed with the ground-up ethics and drilling bolts on lead. The use of hooks for bolting was never really discussed but some felt for the harder numbers hooking would become an acceptable level of change.

It was also agreed that no new bolts would be added to existing route ever, with one exception. That exception being if someone from the first ascent gave the OK or permission to add bolt to his or her route. If you were not able to contact these people for whatever reason such as no forwarding address, they no longer climb, or they have died, their routes were not to be changed with the addition of bolts. Raise yourself to the level of the climb; don't lower the climb to your level.

Another topic of discussion was the climbs along the Needles Highway, or road climbs. The park had expressed some concern about the Needles Eye parking lot. Their concern was the congestion of traffic especially when you get the combination of tour buses and climbers on the rock together. An agreement was made that we should not climb any routes that start from the Needles Eye parking lot after the hours of 10 o'clock am and before the hour of 5 o'clock pm between the dates of Memorial Day weekend and Labor Day weekend. So this would affect the Needles Eye, The Thimble, Bloody Spire, and Hitching Post. The Park expressed interest at one time to making this area off limits to climbing entirely. But they agreed to this plan to keep it opened for climbing.

It was also discussed not to add any more routes directly next to the road in the Needles Eye area or in the Ten Pins, especially the Ten Pins. This was out of respect for the rock itself. So as not to clutter the rocks the tourist can see from the road with a lot of climber paraphernalia. There were a lot of route that we could have climbed back in those days but we gave them up to save the rock and climbing in the Needles. Such a route was the _Homeward Spire Buttress_ the beautiful line that goes up the Homeward Spire next to the Needles Eye tunnel. In fact a route had been started on this rock but the climber who started it elected to remove the work he had done to preserve the rock and the agreement. Routes had been looked at on the Needles Eye, Tricouni Nail and others rock in the area too. In fact, a route was put on the north rib of Tricouni nail. This route had three bolts placed on it. Paul Muehl along with others removed the bolts from the route, to fit into the agreement of the locals.

What was the definition of a local? A local climber was a climber who made his residence in the area. They would be here year round to experience the Needles summer, fall, winter, and spring. If you did not live here you were not a local. Many climbers would come into the area for the entire or most of the climbing season. Some of these climber were Jim Black, Howard Doyle, Todd Skinner, John Matson, Brian Sarni just to name a few. These climbers would always call themselves guests in the area. They never claimed to be locals even though they climbed more than many locals did. These climbers had a lot of respect for the rock and local climbers, besides being respected themselves.

Who were the climbers that attended this meeting and came to such an agreement prior to any Black Hills Climbers Coalition? You would have to just look in Paul Piana's _Touch the Sky, The Needles in The Black Hills of South Dakota_ guidebook or Vern Phinney's guide book _Mount Rushmore National Memorial Climbers Guide. They are in there. Climbers like Paul Muehl, Mike Engle, Ron Yahne, Mike and Rusty Lewis, Vern Phinney, Mark Jacobs John Page, Lane Smith, and myself Bob Archbold. This is not a complete list for there were a lot more people involved than I can remember.

In realization most of the climbers then have moved on, the responsibilities cause of career commitments or sad to say but some have even past away. There is a new or changing group of climbers today in the Needles. The context of the agreement really has almost gotten lost except for a few of us that were around for the meeting. Particularly John Page, Ron Yahne and myself are the ones still around. Most of us had looked at the route potential on such rocks as Tricouni Nail, Homeward Spire and the Needles Eye and others. We had even top roped all these routes. Amongst that generation of climbers we could of and would have done some of these routes if it weren't for the agreement that had been made. I would hope in the future, as I fade away and John Page fades away and Yahne who knows what will happen to him, that the next generation of climbers and the one after that will concur with The Agreement of 1988 for the preservation of the Needles rock and Needles climbing.

Bob Archbold

By Andrew Gram
Administrator
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Aug 14, 2002

Thanks for posting this Bob. I've been climbing in the Needles for about 8 years(I used to live in Rapid City), and while I had heard about this often I had never seen any specifics. Lets hope this being published will help reinstate the old values of the Needles which have been slipping since I moved away.

By Anonymous Coward
Oct 16, 2002

I recently stumbled onto a bolted line, probably about 5.7 on the downhill side of Bell Ringer. Does anyone know what this route is called?

By Anonymous Coward
Oct 22, 2002

I was on my way to climb "Goldline" the other day and I noticed a bolted line on the downhill side of bell ringer. We climbed it and it was about 5.7, it was a lot of fun!Does anyone know what this route is called?

By David Monger
Dec 24, 2002

Just wanted to drop a line and say Merry Christmas to all of the fellow climbers out there, may Santa bring you all lots of great new gear, climb on!

By Anonymous Coward
Oct 4, 2004

Hey Monger,

I think that route you asked about is called Sommer Lovin' or something like that. Wonder who put it up? It is a nice route.

By Anonymous Coward
Jun 12, 2005

Check out www.extremeangles.com to purchase a copy of "Poor Persons Guide to the Black Hills". This is the most modern no B.S. guide available for the southern hills granite. The best choice a visiting climbers. Unfortunately not available in any local shops.

By Tang
From: SD
Feb 27, 2006

Bob,
Much of what you outlined above is correct, but I'm getting old and can't remember all the details. Even with the agreements we know that sometimes the lines have been blurred, and in a few cases, just outright crossed, with the former getting to be more of the norm anymore. Bolting up face routes has never been a complaint from anyone I know. When hairs started getting split, hollow promises were thrown out that quieted some growls at the time, but looking back, they should of been written down. But that was then, gone, passed, move on.
Now (almost 20 years later) these agreements have been passed down by word of mouth, each time with personal interpretation. Blur and haze are at an alarming rate anymore, with less and less vigilance and commitment to ethics and respect. Speaking for myself, I've practically thrown in the proverbial towel. The last 5 years, I just go further and further back into the woods and do my own thing. The thing is, you go back far enough, you come out the other side.
Maybe it's just time to lay down and rest, remember the hills for what I got out of them, and never worry about where they're going in the future.

By Steve W.
May 28, 2006

Bob,

Thanks for showing me around there back in the '90s. Your post reinforces why it's good to hook up with a local (FAer) who can educate newcomers to the regional ethics and politics. It's all about respect and carrying on the traditions.

Meeting you and John was a delight. Since then Amy and I have been back about 6 times. We're planning more trips and hopefully do some new routes.

Steve Weliver
(Iowa)

By vernon phinney
From: pocatello, idaho
Jul 3, 2008

My compliments to Bob Archbold. Indeed the meeting that took place in 1988 was very significant and I will state that Bob's description of it is accurate with one exception. The exception was the use of hooks for aiding while placing bolts on new routes. I brought this topic up at the meeting and accused certain first-ascent people of using aid while establishing new routes in the Needles. The tone changed drastically and I have been told by members in attendance that they were concerned for my health as a specific member in attendance took exception to my comments and specifically stated that he had never used aid in establishing new routes. I do remember the anger expressed by this individual towards my comments and perhaps I did not understand the danger to my health by continuing to express my observations. It was stated by this individual that hooking was not to be tolerated in establishing new routes - aid in any form was beating the rock into submission and not meeting the rock on it's own terms! Time presses on and memories become less distinct; and perhaps individuals in the past should not determine the ethics for the future - but there was a lot of input at the 1988 meeting from many original first ascent climbers in the HILLs. Perhaps some respect should be kept for those who have attempted to maintain a legacy for those yet to come. I have always felt that it was important to know the history of the routes/climbing areas and that is why I spent an extensive amount of time accumulating the route histories (old & new) for the Mount Rushmore area. Vernon Phinney

By Tater Tot
From: Custer, SD
Apr 22, 2009

I want to tell you a classic Needles story of FIRSTS:

It was...
THE FIRST day the Needles highway was open after our month of blizzards this year...

We were...
THE FIRST climbers (of the spring season) to drive the highway (we drove up to the gate as it was being opened.)...

It was...
MY FIRST time ever leading anything along the actual Needles highway...

We saw...
THE FIRST car to drive through as we were summiting Moonlight Rib and got asked...

THE QUESTION:
HOW DO YOU GET THE ROPE UP THERE???

I couldn't have been any more satisfied and annoyed at the same time.