nail polish on the sling, small amount

Climbing friend,

I mark my trad gear this morning passing with small amounts of nail polish. I try to put the polishing only on the metals of the karabiner and cam lobe. However, I fear I do the transferring of small amount of polish from my fingertips to the nylon cam sling.

It seems like the harmless very small amount. Would this be correct? Or would I be doing the dying?

also note climbing friend, I look for advice with question serious, not for the internet wang slapping fight. Thank you.

Eventually everybody will be doing the dying.

Aleks Zebastian wrote:Climbing friend, I mark my trad gear this morning passing with small amounts of nail polish. I try to put the polishing only on the metals of the karabiner and cam lobe. However, I fear I do the transferring of small amount of polish from my fingertips to the nylon cam sling. It seems like the harmless very small amount. Would this be correct? Or would I be doing the dying?

Does the nail polish list the ingredients? Thinks to look for are acids or bases.. usually end in -ate. There are likely some volatile solvents in there as well. Usually end in -ol or -one.

Run a match or a lighter along the sling. The nail polish will burn off first, due to the lower combustion temperature. This will also remove oils and dirt from the sling, leaving you with fresh, clean, nylon.

Who Dat wrote: Does the nail polish list the ingredients? Thinks to look for are acids or bases.. usually end in -ate. There are likely some volatile solvents in there as well. Usually end in -ol or -one.

climbing friend, they do not list the ingredients. I assume it has the solvents. would a tiny amount be ok? or you think I would do the dying?

Send them in to get reslinged if you are worried about it. Cams can also be clipped through the thumb loops as well, but this is a weaker point to clip and can more easily damage the wire in a fall.

madehow.com/Volume-1/Nail-P…

please be doing the needful

Aleks Zebastian wrote: climbing friend, they do not list the ingredients. I assume it has the solvents. would a tiny amount be ok? or you think I would do the dying?

I'll assume you're dealing with ordinary polish and that it doesn't contain any strong acids. Acidic chemicals are what you need to worry about. Most likely the nail polish is not going to do much to the webbing. Even if a fraction of the sling is compromised, the remaining fraction is probably enough to hold any force before the cam pops. I'm also assuming that your sling isn't covered laterally with polish. By that I mean that most of the sling running from the cam to where you clip the biner is free of polish, parallel to the direction of the threading.

I'd feel pretty safe climbing with it.

See: unitika.co.jp/plastics/e/ny… for some more info.

It doesn't make a difference whether the sling is nylon or dyneema - dyneema is a higher-polymer version of nylon, so it might be a bit more resistant to damage. I assumed you have a nylon sling.

Brendan also has a point.

List of ingredients used in most Nail Polish:Credit;Wikipedia

Nail polish consists of a film-forming polymer dissolved in a volatile organic solvent. Nitrocellulose that is dissolved in butyl acetate or ethyl acetate is common. This basic formulation is expanded to include the following:[3]
Plasticizers to yield non-brittle films. Dibutylphthalate and camphor are typical plasticizers.
Dyes and pigments. Representative compounds include chromium oxide greens, chromium hydroxide, ferric ferrocyanide, stannic oxide, titanium dioxide, iron oxide, carmine, ultramarine, and manganese violet.[4]
Opalescent pigments. The glittery/shimmer look in the color can be conferred by mica, bismuth oxychloride, natural pearls, and aluminum powder.
Adhesive polymers ensure that the nitrocellulose adheres to the nail's surface. One modifier used is tosylamide-formaldehyde resin.[5]
Thickening agents are added to maintain the sparkling particles in suspension while in the bottle. A typical thickener is stearalkonium hectorite.
Ultraviolet stabilizers resist color changes when the dry film is exposed to sunlight. A typical stabilizer is benzophenone-1.

unitika.co.jp/plastics/e/ny…

These lists are really helpful if you have the exact ingredient list. The most abundant chemicals by volume are probably ethyl acetate and butyl acetate. Watch out for phenols/phenyls/benzenes.

Who Dat wrote: It doesn't make a difference whether the sling is nylon or dyneema - dyneema is a higher-polymer version of nylon...

Total rubbish. Nylon is a polyamide; Dyneema is a high modulus polyethylene.

OP - considering that the brush in the nail polish bottle is almost surely nylon, I think you have nothing to worry about.

Gunkiemike wrote: Total rubbish. Nylon is a polyamide; Dyneema is a high modulus polyethylene. OP - considering that the brush in the nail polish bottle is almost surely nylon, I think you have nothing to worry about.

Correct. Dyneema contains amide groups. Both are polymers. Dyneema polymers are longer. Both are polymerized hydrocarbon chains. And this makes a difference in this case because..?

Who Dat wrote: Correct. Dyneema contains amide groups. Both are polymers. Dyneema polymers are longer. Both are polymerized hydrocarbon chains. And this makes a difference in this case because..?

How do I say this nicely? You don't know what you're talking about.

Gunkiemike wrote: How do I say this nicely? You don't know what you're talking about.

Good way of answering my question.

Gunkiemike wrote: How do I say this nicely? You don't know what you're talking about.

"also note climbing friend, I look for advice with question serious, not for the internet wang slapping fight. Thank you."

climbing friend aleks,
if you decide you don't want to use the climbing cam, i will pay for shipping of the cam to me. i may even add a couple of bucks although i pinch pennies harder than the climbing rocks.
good luck on your next bold flash of the climbing rocks

eli poss wrote:climbing friend aleks, if you decide you don't want to use the climbing cam, i will pay for shipping of the cam to me. i may even add a couple of bucks although i pinch pennies harder than the climbing rocks. good luck on your next bold flash of the climbing rocks

Climbing friend poss,

I would like to make more bold flash this week coming, however, my heart feels filled sad due to the large amounts of rain on the climbing rocks. I am not currently in my home land of Boulder, state of Colorado, so there is no acceptable gym with the plastic climbing rocks to flash while I wait for the rain passing.

What activities would you be recommending if I may not climb outside and may not have access currently to a gym of plastic climbing rocks??? I am depress.

yukonjack wrote:http://www.madehow.com/Volume-1/Nail-Polish.html please be doing the needful

climbing friend jack,

this does not sound enjoyable. i am now scared of the solvents even though it looks to my eye to be an amount small of droplet shape.

Aleks Zebastian wrote: Climbing friend poss, I would like to make more bold flash this week coming, however, my heart feels filled sad due to the large amounts of rain on the climbing rocks. I am not currently in my home land of Boulder, state of Colorado, so there is no acceptable gym with the plastic climbing rocks to flash while I wait for the rain passing. What activities would you be recommending if I may not climb outside and may not have access currently to a gym of plastic climbing rocks??? I am depress.

climbing friend aleks,
i feel your pain good sir. i just returned home after getting rained out when i was making a satisfactory redpoint. just as i started to climb the rocks, i got a light drizzle of rain. i decided to continue my satisfactory bold climb because the rain was slow but then it got worse. i would not suggest going on the wet climbing rocks without a rope. i do not know of any satisfactory activity for the rain other than video games and i too am depress

Aleks Zebastian wrote: climbing friend jack, this does not sound enjoyable. i am now scared of the solvents even though it looks to my eye to be an amount small of droplet shape.

Friend,
Your question now I will be answering.
Apologies for parade on your raining in earlier note giving.
I think climbing on this cam is ok.
Small damage happening on sling on movement of every rope.
If small droplet as you say be thinking no more.
Flash and be mind free!