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Muscle and Hate 

YDS: 5.10d French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ British: E3 5b PG13

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 50'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.10c/d French: 6b+ Ewbanks: 21 UIAA: VII+ British: E3 5b [details]
FA: Tony Bubb and Bob Shire
Season: Gets afternoon sunshine
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Submitted By: Tony B on Aug 2, 2001
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Up by Practice Climb 101 and Sidewall, the routes do not all go to the top of the ridge. Above the two aforementioned routes there is a large ledge. Muscle and Hate is a logical 3rd pitch to either of these. Step left around a big corner to a medium sized pine tree with a rap station. Look up through the huge roof with a 3" crack going out its right side. Climb pockets and a Hueco from the ledge up into the crack (TCU in pocket to protect to the side) and pull some strange moves to get into the crack-then roll for the top. This is a great climb that still needs some consensus to confirm the grade.


The pro is not bad, but the boulder-ish start could produce a twisted ankle on the ledge. The potential for serious injury is low. Take a set of cams up to a single #4. Take an extra hand size if you want to sew it up.

The route has been cleaned a little and has now had at least a second lead (on-sight). Difficulty could be hand-size dependent.

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Peter Spindloe stands at the base to view Muscle and Hate, a new route on the West Ridge.  Photo by Tony Bubb.
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The route, Muscle and Hate, as viewed from below, with low gear in place.  Photo by Tony Bubb.
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By steve dieckhoff
Nov 12, 2002

Led this today and found it to be very good, well-protected, and pumpy.

By Darren Mabe
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Jan 16, 2003

'Rock' and roll, Tony....

By Thom Engelbach
Jan 11, 2004
rating: 5.10c 6b 20 VII E2 5b

We thought it was more like 5.10, maybe a little bit serious before you get the first bomber hand jam.....every hold is either a jug or a sinker jam, and a double set of cams would be excessive. Still a fun diversion if you're in the neighborhood.

By Anonymous Coward
Sep 27, 2004

A couple of body lengths of climbing through crap rock (stepping from some very questionable piles of donkey dung) to get to a couple of body lengths of steep, lichen-covered hand crack. . . 3 stars? What am I missing?

By Tony B
From: Around Boulder, CO
Mar 7, 2014

^^^ Q: "What am I missing?"
A: Both an identity and the route, apparently.