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By Alex La.
Nov 9, 2012
Drew and I, trip to Seneca.

Hello fellow climbers, I'm currently in the process of preparing to move to Colorado by January 1st-5th. Ive been looking at Colorado springs fairly heavily but my heart's not set on the place. I am a regular climber and am looking for a good area for such. I also need a place where I'll be able to find work. Seeing as I've never been to Colorado and i don't know a single person, I'm going out blind and could use some help with information. Anything would help... Thank you so much!!


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By Andrew Gram
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From Salt Lake City, UT
Nov 9, 2012
Andrew Gram

What kind of work, what is your budget for housing, want to party/have kids in the suburbs/live in a hermit shack, tolerance for traffic, etc. Hard to recommend anywhere without knowing anything at all about you.


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Nov 9, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

right off the bat, I would not recommend CO Springs. No offense to anyone that lives there.


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By S Denny
From Carbondale, CO
Nov 9, 2012

Jon Zucco wrote:
right off the bat, I would not recommend CO Springs. No offense to anyone that lives there.


2nd that


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By J Q
Nov 9, 2012
Me again!

Third, but offense is intended. How about the Junction? That place sucks and needs some decent folks. The climbing is wow.


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Nov 9, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

Yeah, I'll second Q on that; mostly on the grounds that you can get to the creek and rifle w/o much gas/time at all (which are both world-class areas for trad and sport respectively) & there are plenty of jobs out there. Denver and Boulder are rad, but expensive and have a bigger city feel.


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By Alex La.
Nov 9, 2012
Drew and I, trip to Seneca.

Well, I live in maryland now so the wage is a little different here. But I install solar panels and have experience with construction. To be honest I don't really care what I do right now as long as I can pay my bills and climb. Right now I make 14 an hr and my single room apartment is 675/m.. I have a dog and some money saved and I'm just going.. I want to wake up to the.mountains honestly.. to be honest I'm in na, so no partying necessary. Im 20 and don't want kids lol.. Don't exactly wasn't a hermit shack but I don't need anything fancy. And I'm moving out there really because I'm tired of the city :/.


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By RebeccaY
Nov 9, 2012

denver/boulder/golden...and yeah, avoid the springs. super conservative, heinous traffic, terrible city planning. good mtn biking, though.

lots of solar companies in boulder...not sure on denver. look up Lighthouse Solar and Namaste--they're two big ones in Boulder. also bella solar, etc....not sure if they're hiring or not, but be aware that the state lowered its credit program, so some of the solar companies are hurting....

good luck and welcome, bossman. ride your bike when you can to help cut down on the traffic, and save your car trips for getting up to the crags....you're gonna love it!


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By Old and Busted
From Centennial, CO
Nov 9, 2012
Stabby

Denver metro is a nightmare for finding apartments right now. Larimer Co. (Ft. Collins) has 5% unemployment.


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By "H"
From Manitou Springs
Nov 9, 2012
Axes glistening in the sun

Geez, how judgemental. I moved to the Springs from NYC back in 2001, needed to get out of the city as well and didn't want to raise kids where I grew up.

There are pockets of conservatives and there are areas of libs to, but who gives a flying F. I live near Manitou. The traffic compared to the east coast isn't SHIT. You'll know traffic when you have to drive 2 hours one way to go 5 miles to work.Traffic around Denver is much worse, but I do agree with the planning aspect. Who the hell planned the Springs?

All those other areas are expensive. Living on the west side of the Springs is best if you were gonna move here. Closer to climbing, slightly cheaper and a cool mix of people. the Splatte is close, 11 mile canon, Garden of Gods (which is loaded with tourists) Not sure what you're looking for, but if you're in your 20's maybe Ft Collins would be best, big college town. Pretty cool area.

All in all you can't really go wrong with any of these places. Colorado is a sweet place to live. LIke most things in life, it's what you make of it. Good luck!


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By koreo
From Denver, CO
Nov 10, 2012
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We have a solar city here in denver and a fair number of small shop companies. I like the urban environment so denver fits the bill for me. If you're looking to get away from the city I would tell you to head further west or consider FoCo.


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By kirra
Nov 10, 2012

Alex La. wrote:
Well, I live in maryland now ....And I'm moving out there really because I'm tired of the city :/.

visit Golden & some of the smaller towns adjacent to Boulder

you should find at least 16'+ snow here in Jan -don't forget picks, sleds, everything down. Pack in min 2wks of food in case you get buried, it takes awhile sometimes to pull everybody out -welcome fellow climber!


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By JVW
Nov 10, 2012

Don't know what the outlook would be as far as solar occupation but Durango tops my list, true not an abundance of climbing compared to Eldo, Platte, Shelf, etc. but stellar climbing on a smaller scale. Plus close proximity to the Creek, great skiing, mountain biking and a definite small town feel, oh how I miss Dgo. Good luck


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By Nick Votto
Nov 10, 2012
Bolton, VT

If you want to wake up to mountains, and be in them quickly I'll second Durango....by far my favorite spot in CO. Amazing back country skiing, ice climbing, fishing, etc.....not far from the creek. Definitely solitude out there...seems like the rock in the area is pretty good though I haven't climbed much there besides Ophir, which was sweet.
Good luck!


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By Andrew Gram
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From Salt Lake City, UT
Nov 10, 2012
Andrew Gram

If you don't need to be very tied down and can handle rough/simple living, you might consider just bumming around Colorado for a little while. Maybe work at a ski area for the winter, raft guide in the summer, etc. That'll keep you in the mountains until you figure out what you want to do and where you want to go.

If you are tired of the city, think about Grand Junction. It is a smaller town that is a bit of a junkshow, but it puts you in both the mountains and the desert and as Q says the climbing is pretty unreal.

Don't just automatically settle for the front range without checking out some other parts of Colorado and the states around it.


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By S Denny
From Carbondale, CO
Nov 10, 2012

Andrew Gram wrote:
Don't just automatically settle for the front range without checking out some other parts of Colorado and the states around it.


for real! come out and bum around 'til you find a community you enjoy!

the roaring fork valley has it going on; more than most people realize.


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By jmeizis
From Colorado Springs, CO
Nov 10, 2012
The Beginning of Mr. Clean (5.8) at the Barkeater Cliffs in Adirondack Park NY.

rebecca yarmuth wrote:
and yeah, avoid the springs. super conservative, heinous traffic, terrible city planning. good mtn biking, though.


You honestly believe the traffic in the Springs compares to the Denver/Boulder areas? Are you insane...perhaps in the membrane?

Of the entire front range I think Colorado Springs is on the cheaper side of things with good rock access and traffic is not too bad compared to anything north of the south intersection of 25 and 470. My mortgage is $550 a month and I can be in Eldo, CCC, Splatte, and Shelf easily within two hours (as long as I don't try to drive through Denver and don't go there or leave in that 9-7 period.) It does have some conservative elements thanks to Focus on the Family (why don't you focus on your own...) and a major military influence. I know there are solar companies down here I'm not in that field so don't know much about jobs.

All that being said Colorado is a big state. You won't get east coast traffic or cost of living. Rock is way more accessible. Anything will be an improvement.


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By john strand
From southern colo
Nov 10, 2012

Alex- If you install solar and are decent/reliable at all in construction, you should be able to find work all around.
Salida, Junction...


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By Alex La.
Nov 10, 2012
Drew and I, trip to Seneca.

Hey thanks a ton everyone, I am so grateful to have everyones advise and support. I won't be leaving till about january first, so any further information would be graciously accepted. And again I really really really appreciate all of the positive feedback and hope for more, thank you.


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By gunter
Nov 10, 2012

I moved to the springs from Chicago and agree the traffic fucking sucks. Denver is also gay. Bum it for a bit and enjoy not being tied down. If your car/truck bummin work on organizing your shit. If work is your goal, I would suggest setting yourself up for success before you make the big move...


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By Peter Stokes
From Them Thar Hills
Nov 10, 2012
Wall Street, Moab, UT

gunter wrote:
Denver is also gay


Wow- I didn't know there were so many happy people there


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By gunter
Nov 10, 2012

Peter Stokes wrote:
Wow- I didn't know there were so many happy people there

traffic tard...


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Nov 10, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

Peter Stokes wrote:
Wow- I didn't know there were so many happy people there


Yep. I'm super happy living here. My gf and I found an awesome apartment within walking distance of wash park and the broadway music district. I ride my bike to the lightrail for work in the tech center every morning to avoid the traffic. And we can hit up climbing areas within about a 20-45 minute drive (unless it's rush hour). Couldn't be happier honestly.

BUT, if you are looking to wake up to mountains, don't come to Denver.

Golden is nice, GJ is cool if your intent is focused on access to high quality climbing areas... If you are into learning big walls/adventure climbing, Gunnison is way rad. The Black Canyon is beautiful...

The only reason I wouldn't recommend CO Springs is that the climbing there leaves quite a bit to be desired IMO. But it is a BEAUTIFUL city as far as the views go (especially the Manitou area). The hiking is good there too. Just, wouldn't wanna live there. You know?


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By Ryan Williams
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From London (sort of)
Nov 10, 2012
El Chorro

If you havent got your heart set on any place in particular then why, may I ask, have you narrowed your search to Colorado? Have you ever been there? Definitely some nice spots, but there are many places on the Front Range (where most of the jobs are) where you'll feel more like you woke up in the midwest instead of the mountains.

If you can, do what some others have suggested and bum around for a while. I spent a year bumming around CO and a few other states and decided two things: First being that I liked MT, UT and WY more that CO, and the second being that I liked NC better than all of them.

Your experience will be different than mine, but trying out a few places for yourself is the best way to become settled somewhere.


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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Nov 10, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV

Ryan Williams wrote:
If you havent got your heart set on any place in particular then why, may I ask, have you narrowed your search to Colorado?


I'm guessing because, pot is now legal? haha jk.

You have a good point though, bumming around for a little while until you find a place you like is key (IF you have a nest egg saved up for that type of wandering). But, beginning the trip in January is gonna make it hard to get an accurate idea about the climbing scene in any area. Unless your focus is ice climbing.


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By Ryan Williams
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From London (sort of)
Nov 10, 2012
El Chorro

Yea, CO is going to see a huge influx of people now haha!

But yea to the OP, I moved to CO in January and the only thing that really made it possible was grabbing up any job I could find at ski areas until the weather got better. It can be brutal driving around that time of year, even if you have the right vehicle.


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