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By T.L. Kushner
Sep 30, 2012

Hey all, Iíve finally finished college here in New Jersey and Iím moving to Colorado. Iíve got a job for the winter teaching skiing. I'll be heading out some time in mid October and was hoping to be able to get some climbing in before it got too cold and snowy. The Colorado section of this site has a whole lot of different subcategories and I wasnít sure of where to start looking for things in the general summit county area. Interested in trad, sport, and multipitch. Iím interested in doing some snow/mountaineering routes but only have limited experience in that sort of thing from my time growing up on the east coast. Things that have an interesting route up, and are skiable down are also a plus. Has anyone got a recommendation for a good climbing guidebook? What about a good guidebook for backcountry skiing? Any other helpful advice or recommendations of any sort would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all the help and I canít wait to join you in the centennial state!

-TL


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By skiclimber
Sep 30, 2012
jibbing at chasm lake

Suggestions,

#1, don't move to Breck, Expensive, Trendy, Bro Bra, and the skiing is flat and basically sucks.

#2 If your moving to Summit, Take an Avi course Pronto. Get educated, ski with competent partners. Welcome to a Continental Snowpack and arguably the worst snowpack on the planet.


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By David Taft
From Telluride, CO
Sep 30, 2012
enjoying the view

Hey TL

Theres a little bit of climbing in Summit but not a ton, theres a guidebook available at Mountain Outfitters, the climbing community up there is small but theres some good folks, I lived there last year so send a PM if you want some local beta.

-D


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By prod.
From Boulder, Co
Sep 30, 2012

If you are moving to Breck you better be hot or rich if you want to get laid... by a woman. The ratio is pretty bad. Climbing there isn't great, I'd think your best bet would be to drive down to Clear Creek Canyon then Golden in the winter.

EDIT>>> WELCOME TO COLORADO!

Also post up here when you want to climb. There is climbing in the front range, as close as 1.25 hours from Breck, nearly year round as well.

Good Luck,

Prod.


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By Glenn Schuler
From Monument, Co.
Sep 30, 2012
A grey fox skull wedged in a crack 100' up on a FA I was working on - don't see that every day...

skiclimber wrote:
Suggestions, #1, don't move to Breck, Expensive, Trendy, Bro Bra, and the skiing is flat and basically sucks. #2 If your moving to Summit, Take an Avi course Pronto. Get educated, ski with competent partners. Welcome to a Continental Snowpack and arguably the worst snowpack on the planet.


Way to be a first class douchebag there ski.

Preemptive Welcome to Colorado T.L.! You will love it I'm sure. The rock climbing up your way will get chilly real quick. Shelf Road & Penitente are good places to get out of the cold. The South Platte can be climbable through the winter as well.


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By mark felber
From Frisco, CO,USA
Sep 30, 2012

Glenn Schuler wrote:
Way to be a first class douchebag there ski. Preemptive Welcome to Colorado T.L.! You will love it I'm sure. The rock climbing up your way will get chilly real quick. Shelf Road & Penitente are good places to get out of the cold. The South Platte can be climbable through the winter as well.


Actually, he's just telling it like it is. Breck is expensive, trendy, and the male-female ratio favors the ladies heavily (and they know it). But welcome to Colorado anyway. Frisco is a mellower place to live with good free bus service to Breck, although it might not be any cheaper. Silverthorne and Dillon are cheaper places to live, but not as pleasant as Frisco and a longer commute.

For climbing this winter, there's a small gym in Silverthorne (Chizzled), or you can head to the front Range when it warms up (Clear Creek Canyon, Eldo, Boulder Canyon, South Platte...). For back country skiing, do get educated about avy danger, do ski with knowledgeable partners and use the Colorado Avalanche Information Center website (avalanche.state.co.us/index.php ).

Between Breckenridge, Keystone, A-Basin, Vail and Beaver Creek, you should be able to find enough entertaining lift served terrain to satisfy you. And yes, your Breck employee pass will work for all those areas. If you get tired of riding the lifts, there's lots of backcountry right out your door, but do mind the avy danger.


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By matt davies
Sep 30, 2012

Just don't live there for 3 months and call life-long skiers from the Front Range "gapers" because you're now "local".

Other than that, welcome to CO!

EDIT: This will get you started in the BC- www.amazon.com/Skiing-Colorados-Backcountry-Northern-Mountai>>>

EDIT 2.0- Don't tell chicks you're an instructor, tell them you're patrol. Get a vest, and wear it to bed. Oh, don't be picky!


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By skiclimber
Sep 30, 2012
jibbing at chasm lake

Glenn Schuler wrote:
Way to be a first class douchebag there ski.


I thought I was pretty spot on, Didn't mean to sound like a Douche, but I guess I might of been talking about you since you took so much offense to my comment.


The kid is new, from the east coast and stoked on his first season in Colorado. He mentioned interest in skiing Backcountry and to inquire about Climbing.

Maybe you have not spent enough time in the zone, but climbing is here, but for the most part non existent and less then desirable compared to surrounding areas in the state. I have developed a fair bit of climbing in the area in the last years out of boredom between travels as have a few other local diehards. Much of which is not published. There is not much to climb around here Especially in the winter.

and as far as my comments about Breck's skiing and summit's snowpack, and my advice to get educated, Well obviously you know something I don't know. Please enlighten me, so I can respond and call you names too. :-)


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By Dankasaurus
From Lyons, CO
Sep 30, 2012

1) Despite the relative proximity to Mexico, the blow is no bueno.

2) Hopefully it snows. That will make everything else more bearable.

3) Make friends with a bartender, it will help your finances.

4) Watch Aspen Extreme a few times. In many important ways, your life will NOT be like that.

5) Get some ice tools and check out Mt. Lincoln.


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By Owen Darrow
From Garmisch,
Sep 30, 2012
Nice view

For climbing I would look right up the road in buena vista for some year round climbing. I have climbed every month of the year here and you can almost always find good weather. The guidebook is not found many places (check Sawatch Backcountry in Leadville) but if you can't find it Im currently way out of the area and would be happy to mail you mine for the season. You just paypal me the shipping cost.

As far as backcountry skiing goes the snowpack is pretty bad all the year. I can recall skiing in "considerable" conditions for an entire season because once the snow sets up bad it will remain like that for the whole season. Lots of fun hut trip in the area in the 10th Mountain Huts although they are a bit expensive and there is a lottery in the spring. Don't hesitate to ask a sledder for a tow if your getting ready for the day at the same time as a group is leaving, most would be happy to help out!

All and all kick ass place to live. Ask the locals about the tree houses around breck but you didn't hear it from me!


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By jordan cocanower
From Estes Park, CO
Sep 30, 2012
A nice little alpine day

move to vail bro. Lookin to cram people into a house for somewhat affordable rent. weekend trips to the creek, and more women.


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By T.L. Kushner
Sep 30, 2012

shitty snow and a sausage fest...not quite the reaction i was hoping for but i suppose i'll see how it all turns out


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By prod.
From Boulder, Co
Oct 1, 2012

Coming from NJ, you will love the snow and vert at Breck. You'll be in a ski/ Mountain town. It is awesome.

The chick thing will get old, but heck they have the internet now. When I was there the best system was to work nights waiting tables or bartending, then you could ski all day.

Have a blast.

Prod.


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By JCM
From Golden, CO
Oct 1, 2012

skiclimber wrote:
Suggestions, #1, don't move to Breck, Expensive, Trendy, Bro Bra, and the skiing is flat and basically sucks.


Mind you, the OP is moving from Jersey, so whatever level of expensive, trendy, bro brah, and terrible skiing Breck has to offer (by Colorado standards), it will be an unimaginable improvement over the expensive, trendy, bro brah, and terrible skiing of New Jersey.


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By Ethan Mansfield
Oct 1, 2012
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Jon Moen wrote:
Mind you, the OP is moving from Jersey, so whatever level of expensive, trendy, bro brah, and terrible skiing Breck has to offer (by Colorado standards), it will be an unimaginable improvement over the expensive, trendy, bro brah, and terrible skiing of New Jersey.


Please send all skiers/climbers from the east coast to Summit Co.


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By Old and Busted
From Centennial, CO
Oct 1, 2012
Stabby

He can always troll the resort lounges for cougars. A buddy of mine hooked up w/ a Austrian 3X divorcee (all rich) who looked like Greta Garbo. She only came here for 2 weeks a year but offered him free full time residence at her house plus an allowance to be her house boy.

Breck in particular is chock full of SPORS. Stupid People On Rental Skis. The locals there who get bored with the flat skiing do SPOR racing, where you use them as moving slalom poles.


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By Jim Amidon
Oct 1, 2012
What ??

Break=Blows......

Too bad you had not gotten a job at any other resort, Well Keystone Blows too.....

Both those Summit county resorts in my opinion SUCK.........

Copper......way better.....

And pretty much anywhere else has better terrain....

Like some one else said get into an Avi course there easy to find and worth it.....

Learning the snow pack in the back-country is well up to you.....

Even the most experienced and educated still get caught and buried....

Yep coming from NJ you'll be in heaven.......

But it's kind of like the heaven of Las Vegas........

It's all a marketed fantasy.........

But nothing like the reality it is......


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By Ben Brotelho
From Albany, NY
Oct 1, 2012
Epic free solo with a pack on

I'd just move back to NJ...the flat skiing there is way better than the flat skiing at Breck...


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By Glenn Schuler
From Monument, Co.
Oct 1, 2012
A grey fox skull wedged in a crack 100' up on a FA I was working on - don't see that every day...

skiclimber wrote:
I thought I was pretty spot on, Didn't mean to sound like a Douche, but I guess I might of been talking about you since you took so much offense to my comment. The kid is new, from the east coast and stoked on his first season in Colorado. He mentioned interest in skiing Backcountry and to inquire about Climbing. Maybe you have not spent enough time in the zone, but climbing is here, but for the most part non existent and less then desirable compared to surrounding areas in the state. I have developed a fair bit of climbing in the area in the last years out of boredom between travels as have a few other local diehards. Much of which is not published. There is not much to climb around here Especially in the winter. and as far as my comments about Breck's skiing and summit's snowpack, and my advice to get educated, Well obviously you know something I don't know. Please enlighten me, so I can respond and call you names too. :-)


He just graduated from college and is moving to the mountains in Colorado from NJ. Sorry I resorted to name calling, but your negative nancy bullshit just irritated me.
I have relatives that live in Breck and they love it there. I've spent plenty of time there and I'm pretty sure it's a huge improvement from NJ. Sorry you had a bad experience there ski.
Don't listen to all the haters TL, you will love Colorado.


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By MountainManny
From Idaho Springs
Oct 1, 2012
One Trad Ass Motherfucker

If you are a trustafarian you will be right at home...aside from that the town sucks nuts...Without question my least favorite resort town in all Colorado....I even like Aspen more, but that isn't saying much.


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Oct 1, 2012
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

mark felber wrote:
For climbing this winter, there's a small gym in Silverthorne (Chizzled), or you can head to the front Range when it warms up (Clear Creek Canyon, Eldo, Boulder Canyon, South Platte...).

There is a small gym in the Breckenridge Rec Center that is cheap for local's day use too.
And town isn't that bad. At least there is a reasonable transportation system and things to do around. If he's there for 1 winter, it will all be new and so the Uler Fest and the Snow Carving weeks will be fun. Heck, that's 10% of the season right there.
He can get a sled and a kite and hit the res, go ice fishing, if that's his thing, and obviously ski/ride.
But year, housing will be cheaper 15 min away in Dillon/Frisco.

And Breck is better for skis than a board.


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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Oct 1, 2012
Bocan

MountainManny wrote:
If you are a trustafarian you will be right at home...aside from that the town sucks nuts...Without question my least favorite resort town in all Colorado....I even like Aspen more, but that isn't saying much.


Agreed. Skiing is pretty much terrible and the trails are so wide that all the powder blows out as soon as it hits the ground. I never go to Breck unless my visiting friends pretty much force me to go. It has some sort of cultural allure that pulls all the families and gapers in from around the country to shop and ride wide blue trails.

That being said I'm a East Coast transplant as well and you WILL love it in CO and Breck for that matter, regardless of what we say here. Later on you'll figure out where you really want to live, so I wouldn't be discouraged by any of our negative comments. Just people letting you know what you can really expect. And hell who knows you might love it and never leave...we all have our own experiences in life. People love to trash talk Boulder, and I love it here. To each their own.

Have a blast and be safe in the BC!


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By Jeffeos
From CordryCorner
Oct 1, 2012
Young Good Free Face, 11b

Brek is one of the nicest resorts because it is a ski resort town. A lot of the resorts are arguably just that. A resort.

I do also agree with the consensus that the skiing sucks. However, being that you're on this site makes me confident that you'll be planning backcountry days more than you'll be watching base and midbase reports.


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By JoeP
From Littleton, CO
Oct 1, 2012

I'm with Glenn, all this negativity is nonsense. Are there better mountains than Breck? Of course. Does Breck have enough solid terrain to keep the OP busy for a season? Of course. Given that he'll be living in Breck or close (and assuming we get some snow this year), he should have a fair share of good days skiing 6 Chair, E Chair, and the Lake Chutes. And when there isn't snow, being from the east, at least he'll be able to rail some turns unlike most "western" skiers.

Here is a link for avy classes:

www.alpineworldascents.com/scree/index.php/instruction/avala>>>


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By Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
Oct 1, 2012

Dude, Dont listen to the 'aters. Breck and summit are cool places and you will meet cool people. If you get sick of breck... drive to vail or beaver creek. If you find breck to be annoying, move over the pass to fairplay. Real mountain experience there and in Alma. Have fun, the only girl action in from tourists, so figure out a way to get around as many female tourists as possible, and make them laugh and drink and you'll do great!

Edit: look into Colorado Mountain College for fun classes and a way to meet other people in your position. You don't have to be a college kid to take some of the Rec. classes they offer, and you'll meet like minded folks (with good herb).


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By fossana
From Boulder, CO
Oct 1, 2012
West Overhang

Some other climbing options:
- Black Wall / Tan Buttress on Mt Evans (not sure the current conditions and/or if the season is over given the high elevation), ~1:45 from Breck
- South Platte, ~1:45 from Breck
- Mt Royal, Frisco
- E Ridge of Mt Bancroft (fun winter route), ~1:40 from Breck
- The crappy bouldering at Swan Mt Rd isn't really worth visiting unless you're desperate.
- The Gore Range is worth exploring and doesn't get much traffic compared to the 14ers (e.g. mountainproject.com/v/partner-peaks-traverse/107747486).

The Dawson guides are focused on the 14ers but cover backcountry ski descents and snow climbs. Latitude 40 puts out some good topo maps of the area.

Other Notes
- E bound I-70 traffic is heinous on Sun afternoons/evenings.
- There's a not too expensive natural grocery store (Natural Grocers) in Dillon.


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