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May 20, 2012
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Got some Silvrettas, and some skis.
Are most ski techs able to mount them?
Are there any tricks or things one needs to know?

I'm in the midwest, and I'm not sure ski techs here will have seen them.

Thanks
andyedwards
From Jackson, WY
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wildsnow.com/backcountry-ski-m... wargowsky
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If you're somewhat handy you can do it yourself with the wildsnow template. Just practice a couple times with a piece of scrap wood. Make sure and get a center punch. You can find them at auto parts stores. andrewc
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May 20, 2012
This is something you can do if you have the necessary tools. There are plenty of online videos and websites with information on tools needed and procedure. Pretty easy to determine which sites/videos are legit.

When using a template, double check with the actual bindings to make sure that the screw positions align. For example the template that I downloaded from Wildsnow for the Dynafit's did not match my bindings perfectly. If possible try to get the template directly from the manufacturer (not sure if available from Silvretta)

Definitely use a center punch to mark the center points before drilling and keep the drill straight!

Worst part is having to wait until next season to try out the new skis.
Rui Ferreira
From Longmont, CO
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May 23, 2012
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I have mounted a 404s by hand 3 or 4 times (and screwed it up the first time using the template). If you use the template, make sure your printer doesn't scale or re-size to fit the page. I made this mistake the first time I did it.

I found eyeballing it by setting them on the ski's at the middle boot mark and marking the holes with a marker worked best. The heel piece is a little tricky to find the sweet spot as the ski will flex in the snow, changing the distance to the heel bar. Note: flip the lifter bar down flat when traveling on flat ground, so your heel doesn't repeatedly catch on the heel mount.

Remember, you are planning to be skiing in your ice boots (otherwise you wouldn't be mounting 404s) and performance is not going to be affected by being off a couple millimeters here or there. I am not a mechanic type by any means and I did it without difficulty (except when I used the template).

PT
paintrain
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Feb 27, 2013
Does anyone know what size mounting screws I need for the toepiece? I just got an old pair which came with a couple of the heelpiece screws, but no fronts. I seem to be finding a lot of good advice on how to mount them, but nothing on what screws to use. Chris Wright
Joined Aug 16, 2008
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Feb 27, 2013
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I'm right there with ya. Mine are in the mail, once I get them I'll see what I can figure out. Ido know rthat whatever size/thread I will be using stainless eisenbrj
From Grand Rapids, MI
Joined Jun 13, 2012
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Feb 28, 2013
Christopher - take those heel piece screws to the store with you and buy a bunch that look like them. The key is that they are SHORT and have really AGGRESSIVE THREADS. If you strike out there, go to a ski shop, but expect them to tell you they can't share anything with you for liability reasons. Tell them that's a load of BS, you just want to buy some screws. Gunkiemike
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Mar 2, 2013
Ski binding mounting screws generally have the same thread as a #12 sheet metal screw. Not a wood screw. If you compare the threads at the store they should look similar to the sheet metal screws - much deeper threads than a wood screw.

Binding screws use a #3 pozidriv head, typically a flathead but not always. Pozidriv screws are pretty much impossible to find, but you can use a phillips head, as long as you use the right screwdriver when mounting.

It may be difficult to find a #12 screw that is short enough at an average hardware store.
bobbin
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Ski shop, dude... they will have the screws.

As to mounting- the templates seem to work for some, but ruin what should be a straighforward thing for others. First time I mounted 404s I even double-checked the scale box on my template, and it STILL fucked up my hole placements. I had to refill my own holes with epoxy, let it set up, and then ended up retapping halfway into the old holes, which is super lame. They never came out, but I also didn't have the skis that long.

Just set them on there where you want them, center-punch the holes, drill and mount. Way easier, simpler, and significantly less likely to fuck your day up.
Ben Beckerich
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Mar 2, 2013
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Don't forget to wrap some tape around your drill bit, for a depth gauge, so you don't pop out the bottom of the ski Ben Beckerich
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