Montrail Mountain Masochist???

Has anyone tried the Mountain Masochist for use as an approach shoe? I need a stiff shoe, I really loved the old Hard Rock from Montrail, before Columbia took over and dragged Montrail down to their level...

Any recomendations on a stiff trail runner, or stiff approach shoe with a lot of venitilation?

I'm currently using Scarpa Zens, but they get quite steamy when it hits 80f.

I have a pair, and I don't really dig 'em. Definitely not as stiff as the old Hard Rocks, nor as sticky. I just got a pair of 5.10 Exums for hiking/longer approaches, and I have a pair of LS Ultra Raptors for trail running or stuffing into my summit pack for walk-offs (AWESOME trail runners, BTW).

Thanks. I thought that might be the case with the stiffness. Everyone wants soft shoes nowadays. Are the exums still being made?

Puzman wrote:I have a pair, and I don't really dig 'em. Definitely not as stiff as the old Hard Rocks, nor as sticky. I just got a pair of 5.10 Exums for hiking/longer approaches, and I have a pair of LS Ultra Raptors for trail running or stuffing into my summit pack for walk-offs (AWESOME trail runners, BTW).

Have the Masochists as well and they're OK, certainly don't like em as much as the older Montrails though. Really liked LS Raptors but I'm a pronator and going to a neutral shoe got a stress fracture so I'm back to motion control shoes. Don't think LS makes a stability shoe, too bad, they're really nice trail runners, they're a little stiffer than current Montrails and don't seem to break down as quickly. Sportivas fit a little tighter around the toes and run a little smaller than the Montrails, Steep and Cheap seems to have LS trail shoes on sale regularly.

Try the Scarpa Epic. Not as much of an approach shoe as the Zen but well ventilated and climbs OK. I love them. They work well for long approaches. I use mine for everything from climbing to long multiday trips.
Dallen

The mountain masochists are by far the best trail runners I've ever used, though I've since switched to La Sportiva Xplorers for the stickier rubber.

In the same boat; I put many many miles on my Hardrocks. I tried on the LS Raptors, but they are low volume/stability compared to the Hardrocks. I just started trying out the Vasque Velocities, but haven't taken them on a long run yet. They run wide unlike some of the Scarpas. Using LS Xplorers for long alpine routes/approaches, well ventilated, but they aren't trail runners.

I was looking at the explorers, which may be stiff enough, but they look like they will fall apart fast, which may be fine if I can get them for aroun $60, but not for a $100+ pair of shoes.

I don't actually do any running, I just can't seem to find an approach shoe that is well ventilated, stiff and comes in my size. I just emailed with someone from Five Ten and although the new AEscent looks like the perfect shoe they are only making them up to a size 13, and reviews say to buy em at least a half size big.