Hi,
I left a haul bag at the Pine Line tree on the morning of 9/21/12. After climbing the Nose we came back 9/23 and the haul bag was gone. I KNOW WHAT yer thinking… but it was not a bear. The name on the bag is Anna Ceruti and two ipods were in the pocket. My friend Erik has climbed and worked in the park for 8 years and never had any problems. we'd love to keep it that way. Thanks,
Erik K. & Anna C. (707) 362-6471 anna.ceruti@email.it

Doesn't sound like a subtle threat to me. Just someone who doesn't want their Valley experiences to be tainted by some asshole.

Don't leave anything within reach at the base of el cap. Last time I was there some ass hole tourists were filling their bags with stashed unopened bottled waters.

I know there have been many thefts of gear in Camp 4 as well.

Is there anyway to identify your bag or gear?

yeah, the make/model of bag would be a big help. I'll be sure to beat the shit out of anyone with a scuffed up metolius el cap listening to a ipod (halfway joking there)

short side question, feel free to tell me to phuck off if it leads to thread hijack land.
Next spring I'm planning on stashing a bag at mammoth terraces for 4 or 5 days as a pre placed resupply. If I leave a note on it that says it ain't wall booty there shouldn't be a problem, should there? I don't see why there would be but I like being reassured.

Keenan- I'm all about tagging my gear caches with an orange laminated sign that reads "my life depends on this cache! Will be removed by (date). Problems? please contact (phone number)"

I was always under the impression that in the valley, gear left unattended for more than 24 hours is considered abandoned.

Definitely disagree...at least around el cap. It's not uncommon for a team to leave something near the base when they blast (especially for climbs with longer approaches like Lurking Fear) and then retrieve it afterwards. Unless it has obviously been dropped or somehow abandoned, I don't think you should be taking any gear from el cap unless it has been sitting for at least 2 weeks...and even then you should absolutely ask around.

Anything else is thinly desguised greed and a serious disservice to your fellow big wall climber imo. That said, if you're stashing water/gear/whatever for a longer period, it behooves you to label it to remove any doubt.

someone would have to be a real dick to take a bag with a note left 10 pitches up el cap.

i dont know, i feel like if you're doing a wall and you've blasted off, your shit should be with you or in the car. otherwise, it should be fixed to your high point.

not that i agree with taking peoples stuff, but leaving your haul bag on top of Pine Line for two days sounds like a good way to lose your haul bag and all the stuff in it.

From the Yosemite NPS Website
"The Rules
Property left unattended in Yosemite for longer than 24 hours is considered abandoned and may be impounded."
"The Reasons
Stashed gear, food, water, and fixed ropes in particular, take away from the sense of risk and adventure that climbers and other Wilderness travelers expect to experience. Most of Yosemite's climbing areas are in designated Wilderness and must remain "without permanent improvements or human habitation… with the imprint of man’s work substantially unnoticeable."
Wilderness, and climbing in particular, is not intended to be convenient or easy (ironically that's why many are drawn to it). Please do your part to maintain Yosemite's wildness. In 2001 volunteers and rangers removed over four thousand feet of trash rope from Yosemite's walls, not including a few thousand feet of junk rope from the Heart Ledge rappels by conscientious climbers."

Not saying someone should take gear that does not belong to them. Many climbers don't appreciate gear caches on routes or fixed lines that are left for an extended period of time. There is no need to leave stuff laying around all over the place.

Yosemite is wilderness, riiiiggghhht....

Right...if the sight of some stashed gear bugs you enough to remove it then turn it in to the rangers so the owners can get it back (after a potential fine). Don't try to use LNT or park rules about 24 hours as a reason to take stuff from your fellow climbers. If you have any doubts about something being abandoned...it probably isn't.

just curious: after reading those rules...which are designed to protect YOUR experience...what do you have to say about your decision to leave gear at the base?

Bummer, I hope you get it back. I put my name and number on everything. Initials on carabiners and gear. Stuff sometimes comes back that way.

Maybe you were a little disoriented and left it here?:

mountainproject.com/v/entire-big-wall-setup-left-all-over-sf>>>

If not, here is your chance to get some "abandoned" gear!

Just kidding, sorry your stuff is gone and it is definitely shitty that someone else took it. Hopefully it ends up with the rangers and get it back.