Minor new feature: T, S, TR on route lists
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I was searching for some routes to do tomorrow and looking at route lists on the area pages, wishing I could quickly scan for Trad versus Sport versus TR. Then I remembered I write the code for this turkey! |
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I like it. I always just used this dropdown menu... |
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useful |
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Useful. Now we just have to get people to stop checking both trad and sport for the same route. I have been going back to clean up where I had done that for a short while in the past. |
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Useful! |
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Good feature. |
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Helpful. I wouldn't mind seeing the number of pitches too, maybe after the rating. so like.. |
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Excellent feature, thank you! |
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M Sprague wrote:Useful. Now we just have to get people to stop checking both trad and sport for the same route. I have been going back to clean up where I had done that for a short while in the past.First you have to come up with a consensus of what "Trad" and "Sport" mean. As you can see from this mountainproject.com/v/trad-… we don't all mean the same thing when we say "Trad". After 20 plus years of climbing what I think of as "Trad" is not at all what others think of as "Trad". When I see both on a route listing I have no trouble figuring out what to expect. Others might see it as confusing. I've always thought "Trad" meant ground up, gear or bolts placed on the lead. I don't have a problem calling an all bolts climb "Trad". Bolted "Trad" climbs often have long run outs. Back in the day "Sport" meant top down and originally you might have still needed gear and might still have had run outs. Modern "Sport" seems to mean only climbs with closely spaced bolts. At least that's how many seem to see it. Great new feature but I think there could be some sort of definition set up to help people understand what the terms are meant to convey. |
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I think B,G, or BG (Bolts, Gear or Bolts and Gear) would be more useful. But obviously it's a bit too late to change the thousands of routes in the database. These terms are just a lot more clear than sport or trad. |
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Sport, Trad and MIXED can be good too IMO |
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bobmirko wrote:Sport, Trad and MIXED can be good too IMOI don't climb mixed stuff much, but I assumed Mixed would be obvious from the ratings (which is definitely the case with Boulders, Ice, and Aid). I think it's really only Trad, Sport, and TR that need identification. |
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Nick W: I love the site as you can see from my contributions. In the Arizona/NM forum we are having a conversation about stuff that dovetails with this nicely which you may want to look at since obviously you may be open to tweaking features. I think the system Jimbo proposes is probably the best. Here is what he said: "I guess I don't understand the problem. |
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The Trad/sport identifier is perfect. If you can't figure out what gear is needed click on the climb and read the description or comments. I think the T/S addition makes it easy to look through a list when you are standing in front of a crag or at home and decide what might be worth your time. Reading the page for a specific climb will give all the rest of the beta you need beyond that. |