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By Chris D
From the couch
Mar 25, 2013
Sign near the Third Flatiron
Surprised it took so long

abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=1880...

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By rock_fencer
From Columbia, SC
Mar 25, 2013
Myself placing a a blue/yellow offset MC to protec...
This is sad...that video was just waiting a Darwin Award in the making.

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By Gary N
From Durango, CO
Mar 25, 2013
Profile pic taken at Muir Beach.
ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=...

Very sad to hear. This accident could've been so very easily avoidable.

Having set up this swing multiple times, I still take every precaution, which includes always tossing a backpack full of rocks off first.

Let the backpack die, not a human being.

Unfortunately, it's too late for the person(s) to know this who set up the swing, and the ultimate price was paid.

The video is not to blame. If you're going to do something so risky (thrilling), you need to know what the hell you're doing. It's not a game, and not to be taken lightly. If you screw up, people can and will die.

If you want to swing on this thing, better go do it soon!

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By rging
From Salt Lake City, Ut
Mar 25, 2013
CoR
Second death in Moab in two weeks. Is it a coincidence that the target group is 18-28 year old males?

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By R. Moran
From Moab , UT
Mar 25, 2013
REtro
No coincidence. It's spring break.

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By Ian Stewart
Mar 25, 2013
rock_fencer wrote:
This is sad...that video was just waiting a Darwin Award in the making.


Why does the video have anything to do with this incident?

I don't know about you guys, but if I'm going to jump off a 140ft arch I'd sure as hell be triple checking that my rope isn't too long.

It's a shame, but it was easily preventable.

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By TWK
Mar 25, 2013
What's sad is that it's predictable.

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By Miike
From MA/CT border
Mar 25, 2013
my foot
what was he doing swinging on a Sunday in Utah anyways?

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By J Q
Mar 25, 2013
Me again!
rock_fencer wrote:
This is sad...that video was just waiting a Darwin Award in the making.



I do not consider natural selection to be sad but rather uplifting. We got's enough of those hoss.

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By Edward_
Mar 25, 2013
is this the one that that slack roping guy wacko did in reel rock 7?

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By Brendan Blanchard
From Strafford, NH
Mar 25, 2013
Obi Wan Ryobi - Darth Vader Crag, Rumney NH
Edward_ wrote:
is this the one that that slack roping guy wacko did in reel rock 7?


In RR2011(?) it was not a Arch jump, it was a Canyon, so no, not the same one. Someone willing to look could link the video of the arch jump that was done a while ago that is the subject of this accident.

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By C Miller
Administrator
Mar 25, 2013
Sugar Pine (Pinus lambertiana), Black Mountain







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By Pete Spri
Mar 25, 2013
"Corona Arch is on Utah state trust lands but is set to be turned over to a federal land-management agency as part of a larger trade of state and federal lands. Because of the accident, the Bureau of Land Management is "taking a closer look at appropriate ways to balance and manage these activities on public lands," BLM spokeswoman Megan Crandall said Monday."

As expected. We can look forward to more and more regulation.

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By Peter Franzen
Administrator
From Phoenix, AZ
Mar 25, 2013
Belay
Moderation:

Even though this is in General Climbing and not the Injuries & Accidents forum I would hope that we can keep it civil and avoid any insulting or slandering attitudes towards a kid who just lost his life. Please have some respect and don't let this devolve into a flamewar; this is a climbing-related death and it should be treated with respect.

/Moderation

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By Mark Mueller
From Flagstaff, AZ
Mar 25, 2013
Great quality rock on this one!
climbing related? uh...

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By bearbreeder
Mar 25, 2013
young people will see "cool" things on vids and try em ...

rope swing, ice whippers, soloing ...

its the youtube culture ...

people will die eventually

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By Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Mar 26, 2013
OTL
Similar to effing up while rappelling.

No room for mistakes.

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By AOSR
From Wherever we park!
Mar 26, 2013
I have been rigging my own rope jumps for several years now. This activity is like any extreme sport. You have to have a lot of experience and know how to pull it off. That doesn’t mean it isn’t still dangerous and it doesn’t mean we need to make it illegal. Rock climbing is dangerous, can lead to sever injury or death if it attempted by someone who is inexperienced or doesn’t understand the finer points of the gear and planning. BASE jumping even more so. I’d hate to see some kind of legal fallout occur over this. I for one am not going to stop jumping – I absolutely love it… nor will I stop throwing a test bag off first to ensure my system is rigged correctly.

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By TWK
Mar 27, 2013
Yer gunna die!

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By Reginald McChufferton
Mar 27, 2013
This post violated Rule #1. It has been removed by Mountain Project.

By Andrew Gram
Administrator
From Salt Lake City, UT
Mar 27, 2013
Andrew Gram
Sounds like basic human decency doesn't register with you for some reason.

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By Reginald McChufferton
Mar 27, 2013
This post violated Rule #1. It has been removed by Mountain Project.

By Clifton Santiago
Mar 27, 2013
Reginald McChufferton wrote:
Thanks for the proactive moderation Pete but please explain how this is a CLIMBING related death again? Furthermore, could you please explain how it matters one iota what some dbags on some silly litte interwebz site say about this? What's up with all the over active moderation from you guys? Why do you give a shit what we have to say about this and why do you feel such a strong need to control what others think, say and feel in a public forum that's whole point of existence is to talk about shit like this?

This accident reflects on climbers the same way the financial meltdown reflects on bankers- it was Wall Street that sunk the ship, applying the tools and techniques of bankers in a way they were not intended to be used. Don't like that analogy-cool, read on.

This is not some silly little interwebz site populated by misinformed dbags- it is one of the premiere websites for climbing and mountain adventure on the internet with posters who have in many respects set the standards of the sport in their own small ways. And yes, there are some d-bags.

It matters what people say in this forum about fatal accidents because we all are one bad day away from seeing a friend discussed in a similar thread, being held subject to arm-chair analysis from what boils down to voo-doo chest beating cowards- people who think that by belittling the mistakes of others they are insulating themselves from accidents. Analysis is one thing, but at some point it becomes morbid and disrespectful. I don't think this thread is a particularly egregious example of such, but it's something to keep in mind.

Mr. Franzen's post was merely a civilized plea for temperance and respect as I read it, and a call to be moderate in our discussions of a fatal accident, not a call for big-brother censorship of honest opinion. Perhaps I've read too much into it, but when a man has lost his life, perhaps it is better to opine less and sympathize more.

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By todd w
Mar 27, 2013
Well put.

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By Reginald McChufferton
Mar 27, 2013
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By Clifton Santiago
Mar 27, 2013
Reginald McChufferton wrote:
I'm not sure which part of your self aggrandizing post to laugh at first. Your straw man argument comparing this accident to the largest financial crises since the Great Depression? No, wait, it gets better! This little gem almost made me piss myself... " one of the premiere websites for climbing and mountain adventure on the internet with posters who have in many respects set the standards of the sport in their own small ways. " ... Really? Um OK. Glad you think this site is the shizzle. Hope that helps you get through your very important day. 'Course you might want to broaden your Internet horizons and check out some of the other sites available. " It matters what people say in this forum about fatal accidents because we all are one bad day away from seeing a friend discussed in a similar thread" ... Yeah no one should EVAR be allowed to post something that might offend your delicate sensibilities or force you to actually examine your own practices. I mean, you might actually know someone who does stupid shit like this. And finally this little sentence just sets you up to be the internet morality and ethics committee all by your little lonesome doesn't it?... "when a man has lost his life, perhaps it is better to opine less and sympathize more" What if I think the man was a complete idiot and his death was the natural consequences of his retarded decision? Wouldn't the best take away from this story be that he was a moron that killed himself doing something stupid so don't be like the stupid, dead moron and kill yourself with a rope swing? Thanks again for telling me how I should think or feel about this!

You're welcome.

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