Major Tom 

I think folks are being a little too generous with stars, and grades for that matter, for the Satellites.

Anon - I don't know what problems you have a problem with b/c you didn't say so. As of this date, I've added 28 of the 42 problems in the satellites to the database. Of those, here is a tally of the stars given:

0 stars: 1 1 star: 15 2 stars: 8 3 stars: 4------------- 28

Whats's wrong with this breakdown? Maybe there should be a few more 0 star problems. Other than that, it seems about right to me. If you don't agree, use the new function on this site and give a problem your own number of stars - cheers.

Chip, you are doing a fine job with your work on the page, thanks. I would agree with your ratings and stars given. Too much negativity and people downgrading routes/problems on this website.

Fun problem, a bit hard to keep from bumping into the tree.
Off to the left there is a loose block, which is a good foot, but it is easy enough to avoid using it. This block is only a foot or so off the ground, so I don't see it being a safety hazard.

I have only been into the lower Satellites once (yesterday--July 1, 2007) so I could be completely off. If this problem is just to the left of "Balance in Nature" then I'm on the right page. (Edit, yes . . . I didn't read the directions thoroughly prior to posting!)

What I am about to say is not intended to bring criticism to the author, posters, or myself. I only have one V5 (Piano Traverse) under my belt and I flashed this problem, making me question the V3 rating. I could see the rating as being height-dependent; however, as the throw for the sloper for me was very easy and felt almost static (being ~ 6' tall).

Regardless of the rating, I found this problem to be really fun!

V3 seems like a stretch for this one. Avoiding the tree is the crux. I must trad climb too much because it felt contrived NOT to hand jamb the rock/tree crack.

Not touching the tree is the most difficult part of this climb. But as there is a tree that is almost unavoidable to make contact with I consider this like an unfinished route. The only way to jug this one would be to remove the tree.... and I don't think anyone should really do that!! At all! If you are going to climb this one you just need to settle in your mind that the tree is just part of the problem. No big deal.

I didn't really have a problem with the tree, and I do feel like this is height dependent. I am 5'8", and I had quite a bit if trouble reaching the sloper. No need to throw to it either, static is fine.

If everything on the left edge of the boulder is considered off, then this could be V3. To make this happen, go left hand up to the flake/edge thing after the slots and go straight up or slightly right from there. If you go back left, it's way easier.

I was told that the left arete was off. That felt about V2/3 to me using only the face holds.

^ well, you were told wrong.

I always thought that using the arete made it V1....