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Noah Haber
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Jun 29, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Aug 2010
· Points: 78
I'm bored and inside, so here's a hypothetical. Today, evil geniuses from BlackPetzTotemTolius have revealed their top-secret next new gear: the all-rock pro. It's simply a device that magically sticks to all rock. It's as small and light as a medium sized nut, extremely high strength, virtually foolproof, and cleans instantly and easily with no trace. As long as the rock stays in place, it sticks. Better yet, some rich person somewhere is subsidizing them, and as a result they cost $20 a piece to the consumer. All rock pro (bolts, nuts, cams, pitons, whatever) has instantly become obsolete. What happens now? How do the different sub-categories (trad, sport, aid, TR, etc.) change? Does this make climbing less fun, particularly trad and aid? Do bolts get chopped? What about access? Go!
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William Sonoma
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Jun 29, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2012
· Points: 3,550
how do they do in icy conditions? or watery conditions?
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Mark O'Neal
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Jun 29, 2013
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Nicholson, GA
· Joined Oct 2009
· Points: 3,323
That's stupid. Just invent the rocket boots that they have in Star Trek IV. Then when you fall off you can just fire the rockets and lower down to the valley floor.
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Ed Wright
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Jun 29, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2006
· Points: 285
I'll take my REI refund and buy me a set.
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doligo
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Jun 29, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Sep 2008
· Points: 264
You are contradicting yourself - if it's so foolproof and universal as you say, the device could be sold at a premium price, as you'd only need 1 piece (2 at most) - if it fits anywhere, I could just bump, right? There'll be no free-climbing as we know it - only top-roping and free-soloing. Oh wait, in some old-schoolers' minds that device already exists - SLCDs on perfect splitters. I know someone who thinks having a piece even at your waist is top-roping - it's not climbing (as in free climbing) unless you're running it out at least 30ft...
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Buff Johnson
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Jun 29, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2005
· Points: 1,145
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bearbreeder
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Jun 29, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 3,065
doligo wrote:Oh wait, in some old-schoolers' minds that device already exists - SLCDs on perfect splitters. I know someone who thinks having a piece even at your waist is top-roping - it's not climbing (as in free climbing) unless you're running it out at least 30ft... always having a piece above yr waist IS top roping =P which is why i constantly tell people here that moderate well protected cracks are SAFER than moderate (ledgy) sport out here ... you can almost always be on TR ;)
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Puzman puziss
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Jun 30, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Apr 2009
· Points: 45
Ken Nichols would figure out a way to chop 'em...
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Noah Haber
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Jun 30, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Aug 2010
· Points: 78
doligo wrote:You are contradicting yourself - if it's so foolproof and universal as you say, the device could be sold at a premium price, as you'd only need 1 piece (2 at most) - if it fits anywhere, I could just bump, right? No contradiction. That is exactly the scenario I put forth.
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rging
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Jul 2, 2013
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Salt Lake City, Ut
· Joined Jul 2011
· Points: 210
If they aren't patented I would copy them and have them built in China for half the price. If they are patented I would copy them and have them built in China for half the price.
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Alex Washburne
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Jul 2, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Apr 2010
· Points: 65
There would be a 6-hour traffic jam to get to the Gunks, Eldo would look like that scene from world war Z (zombies climbing over buses that are falling down and s***'s going crazy), and RMNP would be packed with city slickers yelling "TAKE SLACK!" and "HEY GARY!!! HEY! GARY!!! AM I ON BELAY?!! NO, NOT OFF BELAY, AM I ON BEL..." And I would quit.
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safetyfourth
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Jul 2, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2013
· Points: 20
While we are on the subject, anybody got the phone number for rock and resole?
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Greg Springer
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Jul 2, 2013
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Minneapolis
· Joined May 2011
· Points: 20
The Simpsons already did it:
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