Long Dong Dihedral 

I would say this route is not 5.8. Maybe 5.7+ or so, it is a fun little route and protects very well. The "crux" is very short and makes this a great route for the beginning 5.8 leader.

I'll second that opinion and go a little further... To paraphrase Gerry Roach's view of climbing grades: "5.7 is hard, 5.8 I feel like I'm falling, 5.9 I am falling". I'd have to say this climb was a 5.6! I did enjoy this climb, the pro is great, the "crux" is a hand crack that is sinker; a good option for a first trad lead even....

I climbed this route the other day. It is definitely not 5.8. There's maybe one 5.7 move on the climb. It is worth the climb to finish with the last pitch of Zentropa however. If you're looking for a good trad lead, I wouldn't recommend this one.

This was kind of a let-down. I knew it was a bit over-rated, but most of the climb is 5.4 (albeit an enjoyable 5.4) with 2-move 5.6 crux. Takes gear like crazy. Also, the two-bolt anchor is "after" the crux, not before it. This would be a great beginner lead as the climbing is moderate and the gear plentiful.

Quite the simple lead. Was my first trad lead. Really easy to concentrate on finding good placements and not worry about falling at all. I'd put it at a 5.6 slab.