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Lichen or Leave It 

YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a

   
Type:  Trad, 2 pitches
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8+ French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: unknown
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Submitted By: ClimbandMine on Jan 23, 2002

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Description 

Start in a chimney near the center of the dome, just left of Ben Dover (I think). The prominent feature is 10' of perfect tight-hands crack near the top of the first pitch. Belay at a good ledge. Either finish up the crack above (unknown rating) or make your way up and right with a number of possibilities to belay at trees (5.5-5.7). Descend off the back of the dome.

Protection 

Standard rack to 3".


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Very easy beginning chimney moves with a wide crack to your left and a narrow crack for small cams to the right.
BETA PHOTO: Very easy beginning chimney moves with a wide crac...
Ryan A. finishing the first pitch.
Ryan A. finishing the first pitch.

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By Peter Spindloe
From: North Vancouver, BC
Oct 14, 2002

An interesting climb. My partner, who led the whole thing in one pitch, didn't like the look of the dihedral on the second pitch so she traversed 10ft. right and went up a thin crack. The protection was solid although one move was a little interesting. I slotted my baby and ring fingers into a small crack as it was too tight for anything else. Despite that, the move was still no more than 5.9. I'd be curious to hear about the dihedral (which is how the route is described in the guide books).
By mike and steve
Jul 18, 2004

I (michael) absolutely loved this climb! The belay station at the big ledge was a bit difficult to find good places for solid pro AND keeping the rope line straight, but definitely doable. I didn't go up the direct dihedral either, but going up to the right and under the roof was a great option. Fun moves!
By Larry Shaw
Jul 27, 2005
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Fun route. mostly 5.6 climbing with a 5 foot section of 5.8 near the top. Felt easier than [Pine Away] to me.
By Mike Ben
From: silverthorne/denver
May 21, 2006

Climber this yesterday in one pitch. Thought it was mostly 5.6 climbing a little weird at the final moves, probably the only spicy section on the climb. Fun climb though. Strange this is a 5.8 and the roof bypass to the left is a 5.7. Felt like it was maybe the other way around.
By Nick Orticelle
From: Denver, Co
Jul 27, 2009
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Had no idea what this was when we started, but it looked fun. And it was! The chimney is easy, with the a semi-technical crack above it which can be bypassed on the right face if need be. My leader was supposed to lead P2 as I wasn't feeling too well, but wanted to bypass the flake right above us as it looked tough. I wanted to give it a shot, and it was a major toughy compared to P1! It protected great with a #1 Camalot shoved up there (I'm 6' and it was still a stretch to shove it in). Fell 3 times before pulling it. Followed by some smaller technical moves above it. P2 definitely gets a higer rating than P1 if you take the direct route. Giving it a 5.8 for the by-passability.
By Rich F.
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Aug 7, 2010
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

A good climb worth doing -- though I liked "Roof Bypass" more. The start of this climb is basically an easy chimney. The climbing gets interesting just below the first ledge where there is about an 8 ft section of exceptional hand crack in a left facing corner. What made the crack challenging (for me) is that it's undercut just below the hand crack, so the first 5 ft or so is mostly just using your hands in the crack. This will be easy for a solid crack climber -- but took some effort from me with not-so good technique. (Wish I had taped up.) Above the 1st pitch we traversed to the right and went up another thin crack directly below the "roof." This thin crack also provided a couple of interesting moves. We finished out left under the roof. Good climb!