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By WillamR
Mar 3, 2013
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Hey guys,

I was just wondering what people thought of liberty mountain's house brands of climbing gear?

I'm starting to peice together a trad rack and would save a chunk of change piecing it together from liberty mountain.

I'm unsure what to think of their quickdraws, runners, wiregates etc.

I'm also interested in a climbing pack and a spare harness.

I was just wondering if anyone has any experience with these items from LM or has any recommendations in each area I hit.

I plan on getting BD c4's .5-3 eventually, but for now, I just want to get a bit of passive pro to place while I top rope and have some draws/runners to start exploring sport climbing and mock leading.

Thanks for any ideas!

Will


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By Ryan N
From San Louis Obispo
Mar 3, 2013
RJN

Never played with their stuff. The one thing I know for sure, and from expierence, that any sport/hobby you get into(climbing, cycling, scuba diving) if your serious about the sport spend that money upfront. I probably bought my current rack 3 times before I got what I really wanted, also spent waaaay more than I needed. The good thing about climbing is there is constantly used gear up for grabs. In my opinion used is just as good as new. If you want camalots, but can't afford them, go used. I bet 1/2 my rack was purchased 2nd hand. Also I use primarily Camalots. There the Beez Kneez...


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By WillamR
Mar 3, 2013
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Thanks for the reply!

I know some of their gear and that it's reviewed well
I heard good things about grivel non-lockers, the abc heuvos (nuts),

I also got my rope, cord, some webbing, and cordellete from LM, and I have been more than satisfied.

I didn't trust them fully for my lockers and I went with BD positrons, so I'm set with those.

I'm mostly wondering if people trust grivel, cypher, or omega non-lockers and quickdraws. I could get a better price on these than I could most used biners/draws anyway and could possibly a higher quality product.

If I don't hear anything positive I'll probably get gear from a better known brand to feel safer. I don't have qualms buying used at all, but I'm inexperienced buying used, so I'm just nervous buying used cams for my first set.


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By rock_fencer
From Columbia, SC
Mar 3, 2013
Myself placing a a blue/yellow offset MC to protect between Bolt 2/3 just post crux . <br /> <br />Picture credit goes to eric Singleton, and many thanks to Josh Bagget for the great belay.

Liberty mountain is a NA distributor for a number of these companies as well as having some of their own in house products from my understanding. They carry reputable brands such as Grivel, Beal, and omega pacific.

You would have to raise a specific question about a specific product from one of their brands for some more help.

Cheers
T


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By Ryan N
From San Louis Obispo
Mar 3, 2013
RJN

Thought you were talking about their house brand

Grivel is a super solid company. Never used their rock gear, but their ice gear is some of the best quality you can buy. As for Omega Pacific, they've been making biners since before I was born. Personally I had a set of their quick draws for my first set, but eventually went to the BD hood wires. Lighter/better.


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By gunter
Mar 3, 2013

Working on the river I acquire a lot of gear through liberty mountain (Thanks to the pro-deal), for the river and climbing. I believe lots of their stuff are brands like Kong and a couple others I cannot think of. They work great and are every bit as good as other brands like petzl (biners, ATC's, Draws, rope.) Maybe slightly heavyer. Now cams on the other hand I do not have any experience with Liberty; I kinda agree with Ryan. When you climb for a bit you learn to like certain types of pieces and can find them just as good and safe used as you would new. So if your just going replace them after a couple years for BD or Metolius then your better of building your rack with pieces you wan't. Like I said though I have never tried any cams (Kongs) through Liberty so they might be good.


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By Ben Beckerich
From saint helens, oregon
Mar 3, 2013
About half way up the East Arete on Illumination Rock

What's not to trust? It's just heavy and not as user friendly as the better-engineered brands. I think half of my "noob-rack" lockers were lib mountain... nothing wrong with them, but definitely not something I'm gonna rack if weight matters at all.

If you can get them cheaper than a used set of C4s, and sea-level cragging is your ambition, then go for it.


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By Eddie2170
From Orange County, NY
Mar 3, 2013

Liberty mountain does have some quality equipment even some of their house brands

Cypher for instance makes really nice key locking biners sold through Liberty mountain, I was super impressed with their twistlocks especially for the price, they were my go to as aluminum twistlocks on my ropes course

The thing I dont like about Omega Pacific is their carabiners are not keylock, still noselock, but if you dont care they are definitely quality. I have had a lot of experience with Omega Pacific when I was a ropes course facilitator and can say they are a great company, with good products, for my ropes course I loved their products, for my own personal gear i'd prefer another company for weight & technology, but I will say the quality is there & their customer service is top notch

Pretty much as far as safety for Omega Pac & Cypher I would absolutely trust them, and their locking carabiners were the backbone to my facility, the HMS Jake being my most used biner, the only downside is the noselock vs keylock, I have less experience with their non-lockers but wouldn't hesitate to buy them if the price is right especially if you are just starting out.

TLDR: You get what you pay for, would I trust Omega Pac or Cypher with my life? YES, I have and have put countless ropes course participants on their products, I trust them. Are they on my rack? No, I have my preferences as far as weight and technology, but would not hesitate to buy them if the price was right.


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By Alex Quitiquit
From Salt Lake City
Mar 3, 2013
meow

Liberty Mountain distributes Slit Fit Cams from Kong and they are a decent cam and fit intermediate sizes. They also do Omega Pacific link cams, which i don't recommend.


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By Dan Allard
From West Chester, PA
Mar 4, 2013
Day at Summersville Lake

Eddie2170 wrote:
The thing I dont like about Omega Pacific is their carabiners are not keylock, still noselock, but if you dont care they are definitely quality. I have had a lot of experience with Omega Pacific when I was a ropes course facilitator and can say they are a great company, with good products, for my ropes course I loved their products, for my own personal gear i'd prefer another company for weight & technology, but I will say the quality is there & their customer service is top notch Pretty much as far as safety for Omega Pac & Cypher I would absolutely trust them, and their locking carabiners were the backbone to my facility, the HMS Jake being my most used biner, the only downside is the noselock vs keylock


FYI - Omega Pac has made keylocks for a few years now..
omegapac.com/categorylist.php?secid=17
omegapac.com/categorylist.php?secid=27


Grivel and Omega both make really solid, quality stuff and in fact I prefer to support them rather than the companies who have sold out to China when I can.


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By Eddie2170
From Orange County, NY
Mar 4, 2013

Dan Allard wrote:
FYI - Omega Pac has made keylocks for a few years now.. omegapac.com/categorylist.php?secid=17 omegapac.com/categorylist.php?secid=27 Grivel and Omega both make really solid, quality stuff and in fact I prefer to support them rather than the companies who have sold out to China when I can.


Touche, Ive seen the keylocks from the first link, but never a keylock Jake, thats awesome +1 to you.


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By portercassidy
From UT/CO
Mar 4, 2013
Deep in a slot canyon, somewhere on the colorado plateau

Liberty Mountain has some great stuff.

I love the wire gate cypher carabiners. They are pretty similar to BD wire gates IMO.

Seems like the last 5+ ropes I bought have been Edelweiss Ropes, because I am always impressed by the last.

The old Kong cams that they use to carry, I did not like at all. But the newer Kong cams seem like they are better, but I have never used them.

The Cava shoes have stealth rubber, and you can usually grab a pair from their warehouse store for like $40. Seems like the shoes are getting better and better.

The ABC stoppers are just as good as any others out there.

Singing Rock harnesses are a good way to go for extra's, or introducing someone who may not continue with the sport.

I got a lot of different brands on my rack, but plenty of Liberty Mountain stuff having been a former employee


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By WillamR
Mar 4, 2013
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Some very good information in this thread.

I think I'm just going to go with the flow and the deals. I'm definitely getting a set of nuts to start, but it's good to know that the grivel and omega pacific draws that I've seen are solid pieces of gear.

Thanks for all the responses!


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By scotticusmaximus
From Felton, CA
Mar 6, 2013

Liberty Mountain has quality stuff for sure - I get almost everything from them, minus my cams. Definitely go with the ABC stoppers - they're made by Omega Pacific and are great! I've had no complaints with mine! I was really interested in the shoes too so I got a pair - nothing like a cheap pair of climbing shoes - and have to say that I've been very impressed so far! I just purchased a bunch of Cypher carabiners and they have been doing great so far too - though the spring tension on the wire-gates seems to be less than on other brands. Just have fun and do a little research - it's nice to have options!


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By Justin Compton
From Longmont, CO
Mar 12, 2013
Bonnie's Roof

I have several Kong Slim-fit cams that I use regularly to supplement my Black Diamonds. I was able to pick them up for cheap and I've been very happy with them over the past several years of heavy use. However, if cost was not an issue or I had to choose between the two brands I would go with Black Diamond.


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