Late For Supper 

Morgan, when did Matt Wilder climb this route? I am not sure who the first ascensionist is, but I know that it was repeated in 1991 and already had a name, Late For Supper. It was considered 5.11+/5.12- at the time.

I've updated the info... thnx. I was given second hand info and was told Matt had worked it out a number of years ago when he was working the V12/13 on the main roof at Samp Mortar. I was also told going straight up on the crimps and out right was in the 13 range with the move from crimps to undercling going somewhere in the V7 range (From my experience that seemed pretty accurate def harder then V5). The info was not accurate so thank you for the correction.

Sent it last week, and climbed it two more times that day to see how I felt about its true difficulty. Really nice climbing after the hard start; I was surprised at how enjoyable a route it is. I don't boulder so I can't comment on the difficulty of the start on that scale, but I definitely recommend trying this route with a static rope (to avoid hitting the rocks below when attempting the opening moves).

I climbed this in the '89- '91 era, it had indeed already been climbed and named, it was a guy named Norman, or Norm who had done it (that I know of for sure), along with a partner who I think was named Chris (Pappas?). There may have been others of course, but I know of these guys for sure, as we exchanged war stories about it. Use of a static line is a good idea for sure, at the very minimum you should pre-load a dynamic rope to get some of the stretch out. You can - and will- hit the ground and big rock at the base if you pop from anything below a solid stance at the undercling.

Someone once told me in the early eighties that this was put up by Norm Schenk (not sure about the last name spelling).