Lance Armstrong

It's been interesting to see what folks on other sites have to say. What do you guys/girls think? I've been a cyclist for 18 years, and actually beat Lance in the 1998 Tour de Tucson right after his cancer stint. I'm disappointed, but knew it was coming.

yawn. I care so little about this, that the only iota that I care is enough to post here that I don't care.

Lance Armstrong is awesome. He beat the pants of the world's best cyclists 7 times. The USADA can go jump off a cliff.

OldManRiver wrote: His word on the other hand, not so much.

Makes me wonder how any professional sports can be done without drugs. The guys who don't often cant compete with those who do. I say let the amateur class do whatever they want and restrict the professionals. Those who want to dope and be the biggest, fastest and best can do so, even at the cost of their body or integrity. They'll be faster and better than the pros but they won't be able to get paid for it. Of course, we the public will want to to pay to see the best, so that might be tough...plus with technology, things like adding your own red blood cells back into your body to boost it's ability to carry oxygen-wouldn't that be great for just about any application? Is it fair? Is it a great idea? ( I don't know about any bad side effects) Would you be a fool not to take advantage of these kinds of things? How far removed fr the coliseum are we, where gladiators fight to the death for our amusement? Do we truly want stand up, chivalrous athletes? Or do we want the biggest baddest imaginable? I held out believing in Lance for so long...I'm disappointed, but it's a tricky thing...

Armstrong is a liar, he didn't dope.

Well when 60% of the tour is doping and he won it 7 times, I say good for him. Its just a shame that his own country threw him under the bus. You would think the US would stand behind him and defend him, instead of exposing this all on their own....after the tour and international community gave up on trying to catch him.

Just another greedy douche with a huge ego. If he had a moral compass, he would have lost with dignity instead of cheating to win. How am I supposed to teach my kids to be good "sports" when all professional athleticism is, is lying a cheating?

At least this stuff prepares our youth for lying a cheating in corporate america... That always turns out good too (insert housing bubble and Wall Street sarcasm).

It's just overall lame that Lance has been wasting everyone's time with this "yes you did, no I didn't" crap for however many years.

Luckily I couldn't give a rat's *ss about cycling.

winners never cheat...cheaters never win !!! Lance is a sack of shit that gave fake hope to people everywhere...

I was going to respond, then I remembered, oh, we all take drugs, at one time or another. Go Lance.

Kevin

RockinOut wrote:Well when 60% of the tour is doping and he won it 7 times, I say good for him. Its just a shame that his own country threw him under the bus. You would think the US would stand behind him and defend him, instead of exposing this all on their own....after the tour and international community gave up on trying to catch him.

He cheated like so many other sports figures. Big $ means someone is going to try and cheat. However, the fact he's going to go cry to Oprah makes me think he's a douche. He might as well hand his good ball over to her and walk off the stage like a sissy.

I think we are missing the point. Not the MP posters, you guys seem to find the humor in everything. But we as Americans for the seven years Lance was winning the Tour cheered, waved little stars and stripes, we even bought those yellow wrist bands. Why? Because the TV told us to. Every year the MSM told us how Lance was an American hero for overcoming cancer and winning a bike race. It turns out the evidence he was cheating was right there in front of our faces, we just chose not to see it. Now the MSM is going to pick a new hero for us to look up to. Even worse they are going to tell us who are enemies are. Choose your own heros.

The worst thing about it is the French were proved right from the beginning when they were yelling that Lance was doping after his first Tour win, and everybody else thought it was just typical French complaining.

C.Ball wrote:I think we are missing the point. Not the MP posters, you guys seem to find the humor in everything. But we as Americans for the seven years Lance was winning the Tour cheered, waved little stars and stripes, we even bought those yellow wrist bands. Why? Because the TV told us to. Every year the MSM told us how Lance was an American hero for overcoming cancer and winning a bike race. It turns out the evidence he was cheating was right there in front of our faces, we just chose not to see it. Now the MSM is going to pick a new hero for us to look up to. Even worse they are going to tell us who are enemies are. Choose your own heros.

Love that south park episode. Couldn't really care less about Lance Armstong. Definitely don't think he's a dick. Definitely don't think he's a hero. Think he rode a bike.

I think that because EVERYONE in cyclings elite was apparently doping that it still makes Lance Armstrong a badass for beating them on an even playing field.

RockinOut wrote:Its just a shame that his own country threw him under the bus. You would think the US would stand behind him and defend him, instead of exposing this all on their own...

All elite athletes dope / take drugs. Who cares? It's in all sports, at the highest levels. It's the new reality.

It a shame about Lance, because what he accomplished from purely an athletics perspective was very impressive. My feeling is that if it's a level playing field, then play ball.

This begs the question about PED use in climbing. Do you think there are many top climbers using "illegal" PEDs? (Other than green courage of course) I mean, can you think of another sport that has little or no testing and the top athletes get to tell YOU how good they are? Seems ripe for dishonesty.