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By England
From ?
Jan 14, 2013
Alpine toothpick.
It's been interesting to see what folks on other sites have to say. What do you guys/girls think? I've been a cyclist for 18 years, and actually beat Lance in the 1998 Tour de Tucson right after his cancer stint. I'm disappointed, but knew it was coming.

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By camhead
From Vandalia, Appalachia
Jan 14, 2013
You stay away from mah pig!
yawn. I care so little about this, that the only iota that I care is enough to post here that I don't care.

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By Benjamin Chapman
From Small Town, USA
Jan 15, 2013
old 1/4" bolt.
Lance Armstrong is awesome. He beat the pants of the world's best cyclists 7 times. The USADA can go jump off a cliff.

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By OldManRiver
From Cottonwood Heights, UT
Jan 15, 2013
Red Rock, Cannibal crag
Benjamin Chapman wrote:
Lance Armstrong is awesome. He beat the pants of the world's best cyclists 7 times. The USADA can go jump off a cliff.


Agreed, but he's also a douche. Since everyone else was doping his achievements mean something. His word on the other hand, not so much.

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By Matt N
From Santa Barbara, CA
Jan 15, 2013
OTL
OldManRiver wrote:
His word on the other hand, not so much.


Yeah, that dude has a lotta ball.

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By Maurice Chaunders
Jan 15, 2013
Colombian Crack
Makes me wonder how any professional sports can be done without drugs. The guys who don't often cant compete with those who do. I say let the amateur class do whatever they want and restrict the professionals. Those who want to dope and be the biggest, fastest and best can do so, even at the cost of their body or integrity. They'll be faster and better than the pros but they won't be able to get paid for it. Of course, we the public will want to to pay to see the best, so that might be tough...plus with technology, things like adding your own red blood cells back into your body to boost it's ability to carry oxygen-wouldn't that be great for just about any application? Is it fair? Is it a great idea? ( I don't know about any bad side effects) Would you be a fool not to take advantage of these kinds of things? How far removed fr the coliseum are we, where gladiators fight to the death for our amusement? Do we truly want stand up, chivalrous athletes? Or do we want the biggest baddest imaginable? I held out believing in Lance for so long...I'm disappointed, but it's a tricky thing...

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By Tradoholic
Jan 15, 2013
Armstrong is a liar, he didn't dope.

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By RockinOut
From NY, NY
Jan 15, 2013
Gear
Well when 60% of the tour is doping and he won it 7 times, I say good for him. Its just a shame that his own country threw him under the bus. You would think the US would stand behind him and defend him, instead of exposing this all on their own....after the tour and international community gave up on trying to catch him.

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By Adam B
From Wheat Ridge, CO
Jan 15, 2013
Middle St. Vrain
Just another greedy douche with a huge ego. If he had a moral compass, he would have lost with dignity instead of cheating to win. How am I supposed to teach my kids to be good "sports" when all professional athleticism is, is lying a cheating?

At least this stuff prepares our youth for lying a cheating in corporate america... That always turns out good too (insert housing bubble and Wall Street sarcasm).

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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2013
Bocan
It's just overall lame that Lance has been wasting everyone's time with this "yes you did, no I didn't" crap for however many years.

Luckily I couldn't give a rat's *ss about cycling.

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By Devin Fin
From DURANGO
Jan 15, 2013
dream canyon fun!
winners never cheat...cheaters never win !!! Lance is a sack of shit that gave fake hope to people everywhere...

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By kevin murphy
From Lafayette, Colorado
Jan 15, 2013
road
I was going to respond, then I remembered, oh, we all take drugs, at one time or another. Go Lance.

Kevin

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By kevin murphy
From Lafayette, Colorado
Jan 15, 2013
road
RockinOut wrote:
Well when 60% of the tour is doping and he won it 7 times, I say good for him. Its just a shame that his own country threw him under the bus. You would think the US would stand behind him and defend him, instead of exposing this all on their own....after the tour and international community gave up on trying to catch him.



No Shit.

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By Mike Belu
From Indianapolis, IN
Jan 15, 2013
Summit of Rainier.
He cheated like so many other sports figures. Big $ means someone is going to try and cheat. However, the fact he's going to go cry to Oprah makes me think he's a douche. He might as well hand his good ball over to her and walk off the stage like a sissy.

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By C.Ball
From Breckenridge, Co
Jan 15, 2013
breich de la meije
I think we are missing the point. Not the MP posters, you guys seem to find the humor in everything. But we as Americans for the seven years Lance was winning the Tour cheered, waved little stars and stripes, we even bought those yellow wrist bands. Why? Because the TV told us to. Every year the MSM told us how Lance was an American hero for overcoming cancer and winning a bike race. It turns out the evidence he was cheating was right there in front of our faces, we just chose not to see it. Now the MSM is going to pick a new hero for us to look up to. Even worse they are going to tell us who are enemies are. Choose your own heros.

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By brianjames
From Appleton, WI
Jan 15, 2013
Working on a boulder problem in yosemite, can't re...
The worst thing about it is the French were proved right from the beginning when they were yelling that Lance was doping after his first Tour win, and everybody else thought it was just typical French complaining.

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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2013
Bocan
C.Ball wrote:
I think we are missing the point. Not the MP posters, you guys seem to find the humor in everything. But we as Americans for the seven years Lance was winning the Tour cheered, waved little stars and stripes, we even bought those yellow wrist bands. Why? Because the TV told us to. Every year the MSM told us how Lance was an American hero for overcoming cancer and winning a bike race. It turns out the evidence he was cheating was right there in front of our faces, we just chose not to see it. Now the MSM is going to pick a new hero for us to look up to. Even worse they are going to tell us who are enemies are. Choose your own heros.



I think you just summed up this must watch episode...

southparkstudios.com/full-epis...

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By Seth Derr
From harrisburg, pa
Jan 15, 2013
Hey there!
Love that south park episode. Couldn't really care less about Lance Armstong. Definitely don't think he's a dick. Definitely don't think he's a hero. Think he rode a bike.

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By Yep
Jan 15, 2013
Matt N wrote:
Yeah, that dude has a lotta ball.


awesome.

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By Sir Camsalot
From thankgodchickenhead, Ut
Jan 15, 2013
I think that because EVERYONE in cyclings elite was apparently doping that it still makes Lance Armstrong a badass for beating them on an even playing field.

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By Boissal
From Small Lake, UT
Jan 15, 2013
RockinOut wrote:
Its just a shame that his own country threw him under the bus. You would think the US would stand behind him and defend him, instead of exposing this all on their own...

Right right, it's a real shame that ethical considerations need apply to red blooded Americans too... He should get a pass just because he's from TX uh?

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By steitz
From midcoast, maine
Jan 15, 2013
All elite athletes dope / take drugs. Who cares? It's in all sports, at the highest levels. It's the new reality.

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By Seth Finkelstein
From Boulder, CO
Jan 15, 2013
It a shame about Lance, because what he accomplished from purely an athletics perspective was very impressive. My feeling is that if it's a level playing field, then play ball.

This begs the question about PED use in climbing. Do you think there are many top climbers using "illegal" PEDs? (Other than green courage of course) I mean, can you think of another sport that has little or no testing and the top athletes get to tell YOU how good they are? Seems ripe for dishonesty.

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By Elijah Flenner
Jan 15, 2013
I don't know if it was a level playing field even if many other cyclists doped. It appears that Lance was a better doper than others; and he got lucky a couple of times.

The lying and the doping is not what is going to be so damning for many. If the stories are correct, it is going to be how Lance tried to destroy others lives for telling the truth about the performance enhancing drug use in cycling. It sounds like he utilized his money and his power to make life miserable for others.

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By Woodchuck ATC
Jan 15, 2013
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
A real hero for his raising cancer funds and surviving cancer himself. Don't really care about those who ride a bike for glory, most upper level sports have dope cheaters not getting caught, so he was probably just keeping up with the norm for the sport. Imagine he will soon have a book deal out there too.

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By jarthur
From Westminster, CO
Jan 15, 2013
My dogs got ups yo!
If anyone hasn't seen it you should check out "Bigger, Stronger, Faster." I found it interesting after talking about this movie with a friend he informed me when he lived in Los Angeles they had "Natural" weight lifting competitions because there was no way in hell in the world of professional body building someone that didn't use steroids was going to win one of those competitions so a sterdoid-free competition was created for those that opted out from using performance enhancers.

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