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Just say no to Frank Sinatra 

YDS: 5.11d French: 7a Ewbanks: 24 UIAA: VIII ZA: 25 British: E5 6a

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 100'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11b/c French: 6c+ Ewbanks: 23 UIAA: VIII- ZA: 24 British: E4 6a [details]
FA: Mack Johnson and Steve Risse
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Submitted By: Jesse James on Mar 13, 2006

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This fun climb has been retro-bolted and is now a easily protected trad climb. A boulder problem at the third bolt leads to easy crack climbing and a chain anchor. Some of the bolts may be hard to clip for shorter people. Soft for 11d.


Located almost at the left end of the country, just left of the Mourning star chimney.


Bolts at the start, gear on the much easier finish.

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By Douglas T
Sep 12, 2012

If you're 6'3", you might find this climb more like 11a. The crux is for sure harder the shorter you get.
By Ben Gilkison
Aug 7, 2015

At 5', I didn't have the requisite reach to make the "move". Great looking route. Was almost able to climb the crux by using some small knobs.

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