Javalina 

Anyone else done Javelina lately ? Looks to me like a hold broke recently and it feels like 5.11 now. Or else I missed something.

I think you did miss something. I did it this weekend and it felt 5.10. Though I think that a back-step at the crux is crucial to keeping the grade at 5.10.

jbak,
I did this a few weeks ago. Seemed like all the old holds were there. I always thought is was hard 5.10 though, with a tricky crux bit.

Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'm either weak or stupid. (I know... you're thinking "both".)

Javelina is the one furthest to the left?
I usually believe, if I can red point it then it's easier than 5.11. The route just to the right of it, Saguaro, is rated easier but felt harder. I might call that one 11a.

jbak , I know your not weak but you just can't think unless your horizontal on a climb. This vertical stuff is just to...well... vertical.

The crux of Javelina is harder than any move on Saguaro by a couple of letter grades, in my opinion.

Steve, maybe your a 5.11 climber and just don't know it yet.

jbak, I had trouble with javalina last time I climbed it, despite having onsighted it several years ago. I also wondered if something had broken off -- around the 2nd bolt, if memory serves.

Did this one yesterday for the first time. Seemed like there was one move of 5.10+.