Is there any legitimate reason to stick clip up a climb?

Is there any legitimate reason to stick clip up a climb?

if your stuck, nobody's around and you don't feel like leaving gear!

if i'm out at a new area, and get stuck on a hard route, but want to climb other routes, i'll stick clip through a sequence. I'll agree though, that its time consuming and somewhat awkward of a prodecdure to perform. Its probably also popular with really hard climbing, but still working routes on lead.

so my answer, it depends!!

To steal draws like the Keebler Elf did!

If you want to work a series of moves and you're wearing crapons. I haven't ever done it but the only reason I ever have a stick clip is for mixed climbing. I like my ankles and I like keeping them usable!

Is it legitimate to aid your way up a section of crack at Indian Creek that you cannot climb? I did watch a guy stick clip his way up a climb so he could work out each section on TR. It was very efficient and probably saved him a lot of rope stretching sessions dialing in the BETA.

because the route is too friggin hard and I need to set up a top rope!

There was a lady at Rifle for years that just clipped up routes; and jumared between bolts. That was her gig and that is cool I guess. If it gets you out of the house on a nice day.
The clip is a tool let any technique be it french free or high step.
There is not guidlines or rules for climbing so people have to adapt to overcome and sometimes you got to do what you got top do.

I can think of lots of legitimate reasons to stick-clip your way up a climb. Like anything else in climbing, it's all legit, as long as you are honest about what you've done.

Sure, so long as you're being honest about it and respectful of other climbers, why should anyone else care?

There's a great poster of some hard aid route in zion that these guys ended up doing clean(aiding that is) with a stick clip. In this case, i find the stick clip a higher form of climbing that pounding in a piton.

Cheers

If it's what you feel like doing.

Legitimate, ha! As if "climbing" were a sanctioned event and an Olympic standby.

Very hard section of an otherwise sweet (and more moderate) multipitch climb.

Pretty std practice in some areas where people are projecting hard sport routes and want to work sections essentially on a TR, or set a TR, or brush holds, or...many many reasons.

I first saw it in regular practice in American Fork in the mid 90s.

Mark Nelson wrote:because the route is too friggin hard and I need to set up a top rope!

Amen. The stick is a tool, just like anything else we use unless we are climbing ropeless and naked. If you wanna toprope the route and have no 'ropegun' to send it for you, go ahead and clip to get your enjoyment out of the day. Sad that some sportys will only find ways to criticize and give someone grief for having a good time on the rocks. Too many got their head up their ass thinking about redpoints and higher numbers.

I've seen people sticking their way up real hard sport routes in the Sinks. They get the clips on and then work the route either on top rope or bolt to bolt. Really just glorified hang-dogging but do build up a knowledge of the sequences and rests so can go for the red point. Mainly done on harder (12+ to 14s) routes but lately I've seen people doing it on 9s and 10s, which sort of seems lame to me, but to each their own: not really hurting anything.

Umph! wrote:Legitimate, ha! As if "climbing" were a sanctioned event and an Olympic standby.

It's close.

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I don't think stick clipping your way up a route should be part of anyone's regular practice. Only in the most extreme circumstances should you be doing this... Why not just go aid climbing?

Is there any legitimate reason to ask this question?

Umph! wrote:Legitimate, ha! As if "climbing" were a sanctioned event and an Olympic standby.

Sweet! I want to be on the first U.S. Olympic Stick Clipping Team!

kennyt wrote:Is there any legitimate reason to ask this question?

excellent question.

The word 'legitimate' implies that there is a 'right way' to climb. Which, based on most forum arguments on this site, a lot of people think there is. I came across this Warren Harding quote that acts as a great reminder/reality check... "Rock limbing is so goddamned stupid in the first place - people moralize about it, but people, myself included, do stupid things. Why institutionalize rock climbing? If it's baseball, of course you have to institutionalize it - keep stats and whatever. But climbing isn't baseball. A lot of people would like to see it that way."

Is there a legitimate reason to stick clip up a climb?.... because you feel like it.

Dangerous landing seems like an obvious reason. But I have been told that stick-clipping is how ALL the big sponsored guns project routes...who am I to argue?