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By LeeAB
From ABQ, NM
Jun 23, 2009
Once we landed we headed to Font to find a place t...
pfwein wrote:
Sounds a little bit like the story posted in one of the mags many years ago when Fred Nicole was doing a first ascent of a hard boulder problem in Yosemite and accidentally kicked his spotter. There is a view (which I generally agree with) than any contact with a spotter invalidates a send. But old Fred-he called it good since in his view the kick didn't make the send. He said something like "I only climb for myself."

This was in reference to a quick and early ascent, though not the FA of Dominator which at the time ws the hardest problem in Yosemite. In conclusion the author also stated that perhapse it was not so important because Fred is the Dominator.. or something along those lines.

Which gym are you at in FL?
Since that could make a big difference.

By Kevin Stricker
From Evergreen, CO
Jun 24, 2009
Yea I climb at least a couple letter grades harder outside than in, and I have practiced A LOT, so I don 't think indoor climbing is easy at all. Don't let the whiners get ya down David, you are rocking and they are jealous. I know that everyone who has posted is wishing they had been cranking .13's at 14.

The best part is.....it was just the first one. In 23 years when you are an old guy like me you will probably have climbed a few hundred, as well as a couple dozen .14's as well.

Keep cranking!

By Crag Dweller
From New York, NY
Jun 24, 2009
My navigator keeps me from getting lost
Seems to me the question you're asking yourself is whether you're a 5.13 climber. If you are, you should be able to go back and do the route again. If you can't, well, keep at it until you can and feel confident saying you can climb 13.

Whether being able to climb 13 indoor translates to being able to do it outdoor is something you'll have to find out for yourself.

By richard magill
Jun 24, 2009
Mountain Bike Action!
Not to get too zen-like, but the number assigned to any route, indoors or out, is pretty much irrelevant. Did you do your best? Did you push your limits? Did you enjoy yourself? Did it really feel any harder than your first 12c or first 12d?

Read the Arno Ilgner book - if you pay attention to what he is saying you will understand that your question is really not worth asking. Just go be.

By Mike Dudley
From Vegas
Jun 24, 2009
Cracker Jack on lead.
Leveille wrote:
as long as the ladies were down with it, its a send

Best answer.


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