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Description 

There are lots of cracks here on the Wingate sandstone. Lots of people now, too. Tread lightly.


Getting There 

To get to the Creek from Moab, go south on US 191 toward Monticello and look for SH 211, which includes a Canyonlands sign, and go right (west). Watch for the Utah State Patrol on 191 and Mule Deer on 211. After the road winds and goes downhill, you will pass Newspaper Rock on your right. In a few miles you have pretty much entered Indian Creek Canyon.


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['4 Stars',157],['3 Stars',458],['2 Stars',258],['1 Star',52],['Bomb',3]
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The Classics

Mountain Project's determination of some of the classic, most popular, highest rated routes for Indian Creek:
Chocolate Corner   5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a     Trad, 1 pitch, 50'   Donnelly Canyon
Generic Crack   5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a     Trad   Donnelly Canyon
Blue Sun   5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a     Trad, 1 pitch, 70'   Way Rambo
Jolly Rancher   5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b     Trad   Pistol Whipped
Supercrack of the Desert   5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b     Trad, 3 pitches   Supercrack Buttress
3AM Crack   5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b     Trad, 1 pitch, 100'   Supercrack Buttress
Incredible Hand Crack   5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b     Trad, 1 pitch, 100'   Supercrack Buttress
Big Guy   5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c     Trad, 1 pitch, 120'   Scarface
Lightning Bolt Cracks   5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c     Trad, Grade III   North Six Shooter Peak
Pente   5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c     Trad   Reservoir Wall
Sinestra   5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c     Trad   Original Meat Wall
Excuse Station   5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c     Trad   Reservoir Wall
Scarface   5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c     Trad   Scarface
Annunaki   5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a     Trad, 1 pitch, 50'   The Optimator
King Cat   5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a     Trad   Cat Wall
Spaghetti Western   5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a     Trad   Pistol Whipped
Coyne Crack   5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a     Trad   Supercrack Buttress
Way Rambo   5.12- 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a     Trad, 1 pitch, 100'   Way Rambo
Slice and Dice   5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b     Trad, 1 pitch, 60'   Way Rambo
Ruby's Cafe   5.13- 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E7 6c     Trad, 70'   Battle of the Bulge Buttres...
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Local Information for Indian Creek
Photos of Indian Creek Slideshow Add Photo
Late day at the Creek. Looking down Beef Basin. April 2011.
Late day at the Creek. Looking down Beef Basin. Ap...
Enforced rest day activity.
Enforced rest day activity.
Fireside shenanigans in the Creek
Fireside shenanigans in the Creek
Unknown crack at the Creek.
Unknown crack at the Creek.
View from Davis Canyon Road
View from Davis Canyon Road
Sixshooter Peaks
Sixshooter Peaks
flowers below Supercrack
flowers below Supercrack
I was pined down on the 2nd meat wall for 5 hours from this storm.road washed out waterfalls out of every crack hail wind ! i felt like a flag in the wind warping down wen the storm hit. got soaked to the bone.
I was pined down on the 2nd meat wall for 5 hours ...
North and South Six Shooters
North and South Six Shooters
North 6 Shooter from the Beach
North 6 Shooter from the Beach
Sunset at Indian Creek
Sunset at Indian Creek
gobies, fingers and The Six Star Crack at Indian Creek
gobies, fingers and The Six Star Crack at Indian C...
Sunset at Indian Creek
Sunset at Indian Creek
pretty shot of the creek
pretty shot of the creek
The Fin and Cat Wall catch late light under clearing storm clouds
The Fin and Cat Wall catch late light under cleari...
"My rack is bigger than your rack!"
"My rack is bigger than your rack!"
My attempt at an artistic photo.
My attempt at an artistic photo.
5-legged tarantulas, covered in tape. They're all over the Creek!
5-legged tarantulas, covered in tape. They're all ...
A panorama of the Bridger Jacks and the Six Shooters
A panorama of the Bridger Jacks and the Six Shoote...
Things have changed and not for the better
Things have changed and not for the better
A view from the Scarface Wall
BETA PHOTO: A view from the Scarface Wall
First ascent of "Fringe of Life" (5.12) 1983. Allen Hill. We also called the canyon that little knowing it would stick after all these years.photo by Chuck Grossman
First ascent of "Fringe of Life" (5.12) 1983. Alle...
Sunset at The Wall
Sunset at The Wall
I'll take this over coffee any morning.
I'll take this over coffee any morning.
The Creek
The Creek
The two Sixshooter peaks in winter.
The two Sixshooter peaks in winter.
A cool boulder near the Dissapointment Cliffs
A cool boulder near the Dissapointment Cliffs
View from the Fin
View from the Fin
Last light over the Six Shooters
Last light over the Six Shooters
Great rock quality on this cliff.
Great rock quality on this cliff.
Moonrise. November 2007
Moonrise. November 2007
The tent did not survive this fall storm
The tent did not survive this fall storm
Sunset over the Six Shooters from the Meat Wall parking lot. <br /><a href='http://www.GoodLifePhotography.com' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >www.GoodLifePhotography.com</a> <br /><a href='http://TylerGates.blogspot.com' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >TylerGates.blogspot.com</a>
Sunset over the Six Shooters from the Meat Wall pa...
Sleeping...
Sleeping...
Sunset from the Cat Wall
Sunset from the Cat Wall
Indian Creek without photoshop
Indian Creek without photoshop
The Six Shooter sunset.
The Six Shooter sunset.
A storm approaches the Sixshooters.
A storm approaches the Sixshooters.
Prickly pears in bloom
Prickly pears in bloom
Out in Fringe of Life Canyon the week it got it's name. Chuck's ready to stack his hexs and scare both of us senseless. Fixed rope on the first pitch is due to THC paranoia and really slow and scary climbing the prior  <br />afternoon.. It was a four pitch climb afterall.
Out in Fringe of Life Canyon the week it got it's ...
After getting in three pitches at the Creek on Thanksgiving Day of 07, this is what I (along with many others) woke up to on Friday, 5 inches of snow.
After getting in three pitches at the Creek on Tha...
A good climb. Someone should repeat these routes and rate them accordingly to 2010. I suspect they are easier than we thought at the time. Fear played a huge role in how we viewed difficulty.
A good climb. Someone should repeat these routes a...
Ryder Dale on Chimney, 5.10, Indian Creek, UT <br /> <br />More Photos by Nick Pease Photography at <br /><a href='http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boulder-CO/Nick-Pease-Photography/136265733077843?ref=sgm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >www.facebook.com/pages/Boulder-CO/Nick-Pease-Photography/136>>></a>
Ryder Dale on Chimney, 5.10, Indian Creek, UT

Mor...
Small Hands? Asian build? Up to your elbows in finger-cracks? Tired of gobies on your forearms? Well, we have the solution for you... For a limited time only we're posting, free of charge, the blueprints for the formerly super-secret Michelle Moffat tape-job! Photo by Tony B, 2007.
Small Hands? Asian build? Up to your elbows in fin...
Indian Creek Breakfast!
Indian Creek Breakfast!
Sassy my partner is gone 11/30/10
Sassy my partner is gone 11/30/10
Looking east from Bridger Jacks.
Looking east from Bridger Jacks.
Gordy tying in for his last send of the day
Gordy tying in for his last send of the day
Climbing cracks at Indian Creek
Climbing cracks at Indian Creek
Mike getting one last send in the Creek (V1 Mantle), Jason spots
Mike getting one last send in the Creek (V1 Mantle...
Six Shooters just after sunset. November 2007
Six Shooters just after sunset. November 2007
1981; Indian Creek dirt baquette. <br />Now;  Smith College Political Science professor.
1981; Indian Creek dirt baquette.
Now@SE...
near wavy gravy as well
near wavy gravy as well
you will never get this
you will never get this
nice view
nice view
He was pretty big...scared the sh!t out of us...
BETA PHOTO: He was pretty big...scared the sh!t out of us...
Near the road to Cliffs of Insanity.
Near the road to Cliffs of Insanity.
A graph of 3-4 star 5.10s by wall.  What we do when sick in the rain...
BETA PHOTO: A graph of 3-4 star 5.10s by wall. What we do whe...
new route on the Fin Wall far right... squeeze to some face to some hand fist stack's ! FA Thad
new route on the Fin Wall far right... squeeze to ...
Indian Creek w/Bridger Jacks and Six Shooters in distance.
Indian Creek w/Bridger Jacks and Six Shooters in d...
Sand, wind, and rain...at least we had the routes to ourselves!
Sand, wind, and rain...at least we had the routes ...
Watch where you put your hand, shoes, gear, dog, sleeping bag...these guys are lurking...
BETA PHOTO: Watch where you put your hand, shoes, gear, dog, s...
late 90's ... hammer time
late 90's ... hammer time
Slackline, with Bridger Jack Mesa, and the late Micah Dash watching
Slackline, with Bridger Jack Mesa, and the late Mi...
Rest day in Fringe of Death canyon in 1979.
Rest day in Fringe of Death canyon in 1979.
Ryan bringing the fire <br />photo by robert johnson
Ryan bringing the fire
photo by robert johnson
Newspaper Rock - can you find the Bart Simpson genie?
Newspaper Rock - can you find the Bart Simpson gen...
Star Trails of Indian Creek, UT <br /> <br />More Photos by Nick Pease Photography at <br /><a href='http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boulder-CO/Nick-Pease-Photography/136265733077843?ref=sgm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >www.facebook.com/pages/Boulder-CO/Nick-Pease-Photography/136>>></a>
Star Trails of Indian Creek, UT

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This is why you use your own anchors for top roping!  Also a good reminder to rotate rap rings.
This is why you use your own anchors for top ropin...
creek
creek
Indian Creek Climber Dog. Am I on belay?
Indian Creek Climber Dog. Am I on belay?
Am I ready to climb at the Creek?
Am I ready to climb at the Creek?
Backlit tree near dreamliner.
Backlit tree near dreamliner.
Indian Creek, UT <br /> <br />More Photos by Nick Pease Photography at <br /><a href='http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boulder-CO/Nick-Pease-Photography/136265733077843?ref=sgm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >www.facebook.com/pages/Boulder-CO/Nick-Pease-Photography/136>>></a>
Indian Creek, UT

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Jonah and George wilkey coming up with a plan of attack at indian creek.
Jonah and George wilkey coming up with a plan of a...
another day at indian creek. haha
another day at indian creek. haha
Classic 80's Indian Creek camping. No else around!
Classic 80's Indian Creek camping. No else around!
From the base of Neat.
From the base of Neat.
Optimator Wall
Optimator Wall
Bridger Jacks
Bridger Jacks
Rest day activities at the creek
BETA PHOTO: Rest day activities at the creek
The View from Super Crack
The View from Super Crack
My Gangsta chain!
My Gangsta chain!
Petroglyphs at Newspaper Rock. Ancient graffiti.
Petroglyphs at Newspaper Rock. Ancient graffiti.
near wavy gravy
near wavy gravy
broken tooth <br />an example of the panoramics that i shot of the major walls at the creek. <br /> <br />i am looking for someone to collaborate on a free on-line guidebook
BETA PHOTO: broken tooth
an example of the panoramics that i s...
Bridger Jacks from camp
Bridger Jacks from camp
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Fall colors In the Creek
Fall colors In the Creek
From Left to Right: 1st Meat Wall, Six Shooters, Cliffs of Insanity hidden behind, Original Meat wall. <br /><a href='http://www.GoodLifePhotography.com' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >www.GoodLifePhotography.com</a> <br /><a href='http://TylerGates.blogspot.com' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >TylerGates.blogspot.com</a>
From Left to Right: 1st Meat Wall, Six Shooters, C...
New parking lot in the rain
New parking lot in the rain
Sunset shot taken from the Beef Basin turnoff.
Sunset shot taken from the Beef Basin turnoff.
Porta potties in IC?
Porta potties in IC?
Ahh!!! More weather is coming!
Ahh!!! More weather is coming!
Reflections on reservoir
Reflections on reservoir
approach to scarface
approach to scarface
more cactus
more cactus
then i fell an hit my butt!
then i fell an hit my butt!
Slackline, on a rest day,  with Bridger Jack Mesa
Slackline, on a rest day, with Bridger Jack Mesa
great textures
great textures
cactus and grasses
cactus and grasses
found under rock . it was old walk lightly .
found under rock . it was old walk lightly .
Evening in Indian Creek
Evening in Indian Creek
South from Cat Wall
South from Cat Wall
look .. was this that bad?
look .. was this that bad?
Sun, snow, no crowds (for a day)- November 09, Indian Creek
Sun, snow, no crowds (for a day)- November 09, Ind...
near supercrack
near supercrack
"Thank God for Pods"
"Thank God for Pods"
November 09 snowfall- beautiful and cold, Indian Creek
November 09 snowfall- beautiful and cold, Indian C...
junk show
junk show
Ahhh, sun
Ahhh, sun
fun on to much cake 11+
fun on to much cake 11+
my shadow and the creek near twitch
my shadow and the creek near twitch
Looking west at Battle of the Bulge, with the Donnelly/Supercrack parking lot. <br /><a href='http://www.GoodLifePhotography.com' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >www.GoodLifePhotography.com</a> <br /><a href='http://TylerGates.blogspot.com' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >TylerGates.blogspot.com</a>
Looking west at Battle of the Bulge, with the Donn...
yea go find it ?
yea go find it ?
most beautiful! respect!
most beautiful! respect!
The Sphynx?
The Sphynx?
time to sell my rack
time to sell my rack
Tony Bubb, Dave Stewart, and Mike Bannister showing off the goods at Resevoir Wall. Photo by Chris Parks, 2005.
Tony Bubb, Dave Stewart, and Mike Bannister showin...
Bridger Jack's Camping Area.
Bridger Jack's Camping Area.
Looking towards North and South six shooter from Scarface wall.
Looking towards North and South six shooter from S...
Blue Sun
Blue Sun
Don't forget to lock your tent at night! The Grim Reaper of Indian Creek (aka Gary)
Don't forget to lock your tent at night! The Grim ...
Sunset from the Optimator Wall trailhead.
Sunset from the Optimator Wall trailhead.
Boulder near the trail up to Res Wall at the end of the day. Photo cred: Grant Gerhard
Boulder near the trail up to Res Wall at the end o...
View from Hamburger Rock.
View from Hamburger Rock.
PS wall rocktober 2013
PS wall rocktober 2013
the creek
the creek
 sorting gear in cow creek pasture
sorting gear in cow creek pasture
Star Trails
Star Trails
I recommend taping for off-widths. This was the effect from a tapeless accent of Big Guy.
I recommend taping for off-widths. This was the ef...
Ms chrissy at the Fin
Ms chrissy at the Fin
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Davis Canyon area, Indian Creek
Davis Canyon area, Indian Creek
glyphs..please respect
glyphs..please respect
Southern Indian Creek
Southern Indian Creek
The Bridger Jack Mesa as seen from the Ranch. Photo by Ryan Willard.
The Bridger Jack Mesa as seen from the Ranch. Phot...
Slackline, with Bridger Jack Mesa
Slackline, with Bridger Jack Mesa
Beautiful day at Way Rambo
Beautiful day at Way Rambo
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By Bernard Vachon
Nov 11, 2002

Could anybody tell me if it is a good idea to climb in IC in June ?... Or is it too hot ??

By Dan Russell
Mar 17, 2003

There's an easy way to get away from the posers and brats at Indian Creek: MY GOODNESS, PEOPLE, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM SUPERCRACK BUTTRESS!! There's a million Supercrack's at the Creek. I've never understood why everyone flocks to that one cliff, when the Creek is unfathomably huge! Personally I get as far away from that buttress as I can.

By Anonymous Coward
Mar 25, 2003

I have an actual question:

There's a route on Battle of the Bulge, between Crack Attack and the Big Baby (closer to Crack Attack) that's not in my guidebook. It's about 50-60' long it's a black left facing corner/open book (wider than 90 degrees) It starts thin fingers, then gets tighter and tighter until you have to stem and use some pods. I'm pretty certain it's in the 5.12-12+ range. Does anyone know what this is? Thanks

By Friso Schlottau
May 8, 2003

I asked about camping areas at Indian Creek on the Climbingboulder.com mailing list, and thought I'd add the reply posts, since the intro to Indian Creek description has poor descriptions of the various places. First reply was from Steve "Crusher" Bartlett:

  • ***************1. A month ago the road was rough, but easy enough in my 4x4 truck. There wereseveral passenger car / low clearance vehicles parked out there, so with some care and patience this works for most vehicles. Drove it in a 2WD vehicle last fall (Prius, very low clearance), and it seemd ok. You can expect to bottom out a little perhaps, but not badly enough to do any damage.[add-on by Friso: This is regarding the Bridger Jack's area. It is reached by turning left on the second dirt road that is past Dugout Ranch, I believe. If you are on the correct road, you should soon encounter a low level water crossing, followed by an odd intersection where a hard right will take you to Bridger Jack's camp area.]

2. The Super Bowl camping area is located on the left, just before thesignposted turn-off for Davis Canyon (access for the Six-shooters). This is about 11 miles from Newspaper Rock, on the left. I've not seen this area for a couple years. It had a portable toilet, and was easy to access back then. Should still be the same.

3. Other camping areas include:Newspaper Rock, which is often busy, but is nice and shady, and has pittoilets. The Hamburger Rock area is a mile or so past the Davis Canyon turn-off (maybe15 miles from Newspaper Rock) and is on the right. Look for a large wooded BLM sign, with directions. This is an easy 2WD mile or so off of the main road, and is usually frequented by hikers, and is usually ignored by climbers (kind of a long commute from the climbing). There are pit toilets here.There is also undeveloped camping within Cottonwood Canyon beyond the Dugout Ranch area to the southwest (near Pistol Whipped Wall). Also along Davis Canyon Road, but this road becomes very rough, very quickly.

4. There are two areas which are currently designated as No Camping: a. The inner canyon area between Newspaper Rock and the Dugout Ranch/Reservoir.This includes the side-canyons. b. The Lavender Canyon area. This is the pristine area beyond the BridgerJacks, extending along the west side of the Bridger Jack Mesa.**************** An add-on by H.R. Barnard

  • ***************I was at the super bowl about 3 weeks ago. It is very accessible to lowclearance vehicles. Another tip on finding it to add to Crusher's. Rightbefore the turn there is a short but very noticeable, slightly curving distinct downhill section of the road. The gate to the superbowl isimmediately after that. There was also a small nature conservancy/BLM IndianCreek brochure box located at the gate to help identify it. Don't be detered byall the RV-type vehicles you see initially. Stay to the left of where theypark and you'll find the climber camping.****************

By Anonymous Coward
Jul 12, 2003

I was just wondering about summer weather, is it too hot to climb, or is it possible to find relief in the shade on some of the walls? Also, a little bit more specific: what are the best months, ok months, and worse months to climb at indian creek. I appreciate the Help.

Maui Postma

By Anonymous Coward
Jul 14, 2003

The best months at the Creek are fall and spring March through mid-May and mid-September through November. The unfortunate thing about the Creek for summer climbing is that most of the walls face South. However, there are a few excellent walls which get plenty of shade: Reservoir Wall and 4x4 Wall come to mind as the best.

By Anonymous Coward
Oct 14, 2003

just wondering if anybody has info on a couple routes we did this weekend. the two routes we did were side by side, and they were between dusty trails to nowhere and coyote essence.

the left hand route went up the right side of a flake on great hands and then burrows into a sweet squeeze chimney. the squeeze is capped by a hand crack that quickly tapers to a lieback to get to the anchors. (5.9 until layback topout, maybe 10b, approx 80 feet).

the right hand route (about 15 feet to the right) was pretty low angle. it started with a finger lieback to get onto a small pedestal. then it was low angled ringlocks and tight hands for a ways. finally, there is kind of an angled slot/recess with tight hands (this part is steeper). (maybe 10b or so, approx 60 feet?)

thanks for the info. both routes were excellent.

By Grant b
Sep 22, 2005

two questions, about Indian Creek, one which wall is Diedier's new climb on, from switzerland with love? i am going to the creek this weekend and just want to check out the route, next...what wall is the ringel on? thanks for the help!

By Madaleine
From: Boulder, Colorado
Jan 28, 2006

Question! Might anyone recall the names of the two newish routes just left of the Optimator (yes, on the Optimator Wall)? The farthest left is an easier 5.12 in a right-facing corner, I believe containing thw word 'red' in its short name, and the other begins with a bouldery start. Anyway, they are fun routes, if you haven't made it over there, and for whatever reason it's nagging me that I can't recall the names.

By wetyeti
Apr 6, 2006

whats the deal with climbing on the reservoir wall? shutdown or what??

By Rob T
Sep 7, 2006

Just talked to Heidi about Resevoir in May '06. She would prefer that people stay on the left side of the wall, basically out of view of the ranch.

By chris Kalous
Nov 8, 2006

A note for 1st ascensionists from an ARI volunteer who has replaced stacks of anchors in the creek.

Some guidelines to consider for new anchors:

1. Use deep half inch bolts when possible (a power drill drills a better hole, and even though it is heavy on the hike, it can drop in a 4 1/2 X 1/2 inch hole in about 15 seconds).

2.Three eighths is your second choice.

3. Leave the baby angles at home. I have cleaned these antiquated things with embarrassingly little effort. They are difficult to place, anyway, even by experienced drillers (hence the ones sticking out an inch from the wall). Besides, they are more expensive than expansion bolts.

4. Use steel anchors. Webbing is visually gross and wears out quickly becoming unsafe. There are many cheap options at your local hardware store.

5. Camo the anchors. Every hardware store carries a brown primer that is exactly the color of windgate.

5. Make the link to the rope replaceable without having to replace the entire setup (ie: screwlinks or old biners).

A major complaint against climbers in indian creek and across the country is the visual impact of bolts and anchors, so this is an access issue and a safety issue.

Finally, those of you who carry a bolt kit for beefing up anchors, consider carrying enough gear to replace the entire thing with steel hardware and good bolts. This will avoid creating those confusing rats nest anchors that we always see out there. If one out of every one hundred parties replaced one anchor, the place would be cleaned up in no time.

Thanks
Chris Kalous
Climbing Magazine ARI volunteer.

PS: If you put up routes with single bolt anchors, you're cheap and lazy.

By Ranchhand
From: Bend, OR
Apr 25, 2008

Hi, I got busted on the 211, the road going into Indian Creek Corridor. I was speeding and got searched. Dont speed and just say no to search. Be careful on these Utah backroads, spred the word.

By Larry Bruce
Oct 27, 2008

Last week I went up and climbed the wonderful Whales Back on Technicolor Wall and noticed a new route to the right of it with 3 shiny new bolts on a prow to the right of a flair. What really bothered me about it was the name of the route SILVER LINING scribed on the wall. I like plaques, they can be attractive and artistic but scribing on the wall itself is not only defacing the rock but is a ticket to having IC closed for climbing. All it takes is one pissed off Native American working with the BLM to shut it down, with good reason. Choss Boy

By chris Kalous
Dec 7, 2008

From the Redds of Indian Creek 12/07/08...

...As you know, one of our dogs is missing from the Dugout Ranch (aka Indian Creek area). Please forward this email to anyone who may be able to help.

"Jack" is a female Kelpie/Boxer cross, with distinctive black and white markings and a couple brown spots on her cheek. (pictures attached) She is a very sweet, affectionate and friendly dog who went missing shortly before Thanksgiving. Jack's brother was picked up by a female rock climber on 11/23 and was TAKEN to Moab. This climber kept our dog for a week before reporting it to the Humane Society, where I finally tracked him down on 12/3.

Jack is unfortunately still missing. She was wearing a brown leather collar with a brass nameplate riveted to it that clearly stated she lives at Dugout Ranch, along with all our contact information.

If anyone has any information at all, or someone in town has s dog matching her description, please contact us at this email or leave a message at 435-459-0018 . Feel free to email if you have any questions or need more information.

Also, I thought you should know this is not the first time this has happened. Perhaps if we can get the word out, this type of thing will happen less frequently. I am planning to post flyers at the kiosks down here as well.

Please advise people: If you see a "stray" dog at Indian Creek, bring it to the ranch to ask before you make any assumptions. The bottom line: you are climbing and camping on private and leased property, where these dogs live and work daily. Please have some common sense. Our dogs are very friendly and will not forgo attention! Because they let you pet them (or feed them!) does not mean they are strays.


Thank you,
Melinda & Adam Redd
melindaredd@yahoo.com

By m-earle
From: Concord, MA
Dec 20, 2008

Larry, the perpetrator to said inscribing is a well known desert hermit (whose name rhymes with ralph). I doubt he spends much time on MP, so you might have to track him down in the field. While his practice of "inscribing" route names might not be the best idea, keep in mind that he has done a lot of work for Technicolor Wall, including building a trail.

By Bob Dobalina
Sep 8, 2009

Just got back from a long labor day weekend in the Creek. NOBODY was there! All the popular camping and climbing was wide open. The weather was perfect as long as you stayed out of direct sun. I don't think that I saw more than one or two cars parked at Supercrack Buttress all weekend long!
Imagine showing up at Supercrack Buttress mid day on a saturday and having your pick of any climb!?! Yeah, that's how it was.

By Indian Creek 2112
Oct 15, 2009

Indian Creek is fast becoming known as the worlds best crack climbing. Most people camp a few days and then stay at a hotel. Motnticello, utah is the closest town and Inn at the Canyons is the actuall closest hotel to Indian Creek. I am the owner of the hotel and an avid climber my self, so i would like to offer a 25% discount to all climbers just by mentioning this add and that you are a climber. We are in Monticello, utah 533 N main, Inn at the canyons. Come in, save some money and talk to me ( the Owner Jared) about some sweet climbs that only locals know about. www.monticellocanyonlandsinn.com

By Indian Creek 2112
Mar 26, 2010

If you are going to Indian Creek, which is proballly the best crack climbing inj the world and need a hotel after camping out, I reccomend Inn at the Canyons, in Monticello. It is 40 minutes closer to indian creek than moab, it's a very nice hotel and the owner is a climber and gives us $20.00 USD off if you just mention you are climbing Indian Creeek, Pretty cool. Indoor Pool, Hot tub, Break fast Inn at the Canyons 435 587-2458

By 1Eric Rhicard
Mar 28, 2010

After reading some stuff hear I thought our visit might be similar to surfing at one of So Cals hot breaks where fistfights are not uncommon. But as usual the climbers we met were great mostly friendly and really courteous. If they had a rope hanging and you wanted to lead the route. Even on the weekend when Cat Wall had a ton of cars and a lot of climbers it was busy but not unpleasant. Wait I mean it really sucked everyone had an attitude and the whole trip sucked.:)

By Sam Lightner, Jr.
From: Lander, WY
Mar 29, 2010

And don't forget the standard "the place is ruined, man."

By 303scott
Apr 15, 2010

It looks like Cat, Reservoir and Slug walls are closed again for raptors through August 31. Are there any other seasonal closures?

By Xander! Wyckoff
From: Durango, CO
Apr 2, 2012

Dear Boulder,
I don't really mind that you're colonizing Indian Creek. I don't mind that you apply an entire roll of tape to your hands (some of you; I know the danger of generalization, but I am compelled to indulge). I don't mind that you're strong and fit and attractively clothed. Please just don't tell me how to climb, how you climb, or how good you are at climbing. There is room for everyone at the creek, even at the most crowded walls, but our egos make things feel quite a bit more crowded

Humbly yours,
Xander

By slim
Administrator
Apr 3, 2012

any particular incident, or just in general?

By jankstank
Sep 13, 2012

purist, non-purist, semi-purist, antipurist.. It doesn't matter just "do you" and let other people "do themselves". All I know is I love indian creek and want to go back! but I have to go to work instead :(

By slim
Administrator
Dec 13, 2013

hey ya bunch of sand eating cam horders, i'm thinking about trying to organize the unnamed/unknown/newly-renamed routes a bit so that it is easier to find them when you are at the cliff. for example the 'unknown' 5.11 on the far left side of battle of the bulge buttress would be renamed 'unknown 5.11 RF corner with 2 bolts'. etc.

Curious to see if anybody has any heartburn about it, if not i will try to get started on some of the smaller walls first. this will probably take some trial and error, so if i muff one up feel free to criticize/slander accordingly.

also, i am going to try to go through and merge duplicate entries. this might take a while.

thanks.

By Indian Creek 2112
Dec 31, 2013

Hello All! Just wanted to update everyone; The Inn at the Canyons coupon has expired. The owner still loves climbers and would love to give everyone a great rate. Discount will vary depending on season and availability.

By geoff georges
From: Seattle, Wa.
Jan 12, 2014

Here goes, the fall rain is settling in on the NW for a few months so I will tackle this subject that has been nagging at me for 10 years or so.
I am only looking at BD Camalots to keep it simple.
I used to think it was the transition from old to new Camalots, but I find that even with the newer books there are discrepancies.

Supertopo 2013 Optimal C4 range sizes:
.3 - 3/4"
.4- 1"
.5 - 1 1/4"
.75- 1 1/2- 1 3/4"
#1 - 1 3/4 -2"
#2 - 2- 2 1/2"
#3- 3- 3 1/2"
#4 - 3 1/2- 4 1/2"
#5 - 4 1/2- 5 1/2"
#6 - 5 1/2 -7"

Actual Optimal C4 range sizes:

.3 - 5/8"
.4 - 3/4"
.5 - 1"
.75 - 1 1/4"
#1 -1 9/16'
#2 - 1 15/16"
#3 - 2 11/16"
#4 - 3 7/16"
#5 - 4 5/8'
#6 - 6"

Some might object that I am including 1/16", but you will see that even without the 1/16" the numbers are way off. I measured the cams working range too, but am just including the sweet spot, best position placement. I usually try to figure out for myself what cams are needed for any given pitch, but since Supertopo suggests rack sizes for routes this might confuse a few newer leaders.
I add this here because the Bloom books have the sizes sometimes off too.