Idiopathic 

The second pitch has 12 bolts, and I think Aaron meant extendable runners because I know I wouldn't want to throw any away! It's a fun climb with a great summit.

Idiopathic is actually to THE RIGHT of the Groover!!! Do we know whose FA this is?

Good gravy, not another scarefest! I have to get on it soon...

"owl cove" ??... haha... I like that.

I'm writing this from my roll-a-way bed in 4D of Banner Desert Med Center. I've been cooped up for 2 weeks while my wife and son recover from a DVT in the rt leg, and Porter coming 2 months early. Austin and Chris broke me out of the hospital at 0800 in Mesa on Sat. Afyer stopping for gas and breakfast, I was roped up and headed up Idiopathic by 1100 for a much needed break.
These guys styled their way up the Courthouse as we climbed in a party of three. I led each pitch first, then pulled my rope and used it to get in better position for pictures. We were back at our packs by 1545 and driving out by 1600. I got back to the hospital by 1730 to my wife who was happy that I was happy:)
I had a blast guys! Thanks for the belays and I hope you enjoy the pics. Lets get up to the East Verde before the snow:)

Todd Foor and I climbed it yesterday. I think it was great fun and adventurous. I think it needs a few more ascents to clean the flaky stuff off. A bit in the middle of the third pitch the rock deteriorated on the face and I leaned left to the crack, not much more solid, but it gave me pause since I was a little ways above the bolt. The crack needs some cleaning there, I tossed off a bit.

Wow!! This climb keeps you wondering what's going to stay and what's going to crumble away! Very exciting climb. You get some great stances with a lot of fragile moves to get to them. I lead with 3 others following, after the 1st pitch, my second decided to head back to the ground due to being terrified! Three of us continued, hoping that we'd find more stable terrain above, we didn't.
Well bolted, but a bit heady regardless. I think it may go up a grade after some more cleaning!

This was a pretty fun route. First two pitches are three star dirty, crumbly climbing. Some of the loose holds add to the mental fun factor. If rock was solid it could be rated a 5.8. Last two pitches are only necessary if you want a summit shot, not too exciting. One to two stars.

I may just be a little bitter though since my phone dropped out of my pocket while rapping the final pitch. Screen on my fancy smart phone is broken and I lost my sd card somewhere -must have popped out (and my camera had tons of awesome climbing pictures on it). Looked for it for an hour but never found it. :(

I thought this was really fun. It does have a crumble factor, but enjoyed it, good route.

Rope?
Steve Tillery and I climbed it last weekened. Out rope got stuck in the rap and We could not get it.
We are back at the base of the climb today, and the ropes are gone. If you retrieved them, please let us know. Email me: Sayfe@cox.net

Great climb!

not recomended.... rock is brittle, any hold can n did n will give.
the route is bolted as if the rock were granite.. but with the generous spacing of the bolts and the crap rock this route is 5.9r

after the fifthish bolt on the third pitch you cant see the next bolt.. anywhere to be found... the route does not logically go up, but traverses hard right... who would guess.. hmmmm needs a plaque with an arrow ( he he)... would be very hard to rap the route and retrieve your gear after the second pitch... I would climb the first two ,, rap,, and call it a day.... hit the groover, a much better climb.
sayfe got your ropes off the route.. ill email ya...
cheers...
lou

The rock is lose but it's still a good route.

You can drive almost to the base especially with 4wd. We stopped way too soon.

The bolts are pretty good. The anchors aren't. A homemade hanger or other inventions. Also agree with the traverse... It needs a bolt to indicate there is more climbing up to the right.

A nice route.. Good mix of climbing. Nice stemming section. If the anchors were better it would be a good route for an intro to multipitch for a solid 5.9 climber.

GPS coordinates (WGS84 hddd.ddddd°)

Start of Idiopathic:
N33.46194 W113.35839