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I'd Turn Back If I Were You 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- British: HVS 4c

Type:  Sport
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8+ French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- British: HVS 4c [details]
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Submitted By: Scott Tucker on Jun 26, 2006
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No real crux, fairly sustained climbing on mostly good holds, bulge just below anchors. Tallest climb on this wall.


Sixth route from right end of Wall of Waltzing Witches, left of the two juniper trees in the middle of the wall.


Bolts & chains.

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By Joseph Stover
From: Batesville, AR
Sep 11, 2006
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- HVS 4c

This was a fun route. I though it was harder than Talk me out of it, or maybe just scarier. Definitely exposed with a great view at the top. I thought there were two cruxes, one when you are standing on the obvious big horn about halfway up and the other harder crux pulling over the last bolt to get the chains.

8 bolts + chain and rap anchor(slightly spinning, probably due to rock crumble as the bolt and nut seem plenty tight.)

By Chelsea Cook
Mar 22, 2009
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- HVS 4c

I think both of the 8's on this wall are trickier than the 9's. Really, the 9's have only one or two 9 moves on them and then get easier. They are also more obvious and straightforward than the 8's. I think this is definitely a 5.8 climb.