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By Elena Sera Jose
From colorado
May 1, 2012
bacon
OK for real dude....liposuction is your only choice at this point....you can get good deals now in India! Totally sweet deal .....and HOT nurses! Dude they want cash up front though....that sucks!

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By Jeremy Hand
May 1, 2012
slopey
Jim Gloeckler wrote:
RUN IN THE SAME PAIR OF TENNIS SHOES FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS......THIS WILL DO THE TRICK, AND WEAR ENOUGH OF THE TREAD OFF SO THAT YOU WON'T HAVE TO MAKE CARDBOARD SHOES.


+55

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By Mike Anderson
From Dayton, OH
May 1, 2012
First off, I don't know exactly what you mean by "well under 10% body fat". IMO, climbers who want to perform maximally should be aim lower, like 6-7% range. In my personal experimentation, I find that I can go as low as 6% without performance and training suffering (*based on bathroom scale measurements which are known to be inaccurate). Also, IME, the percentage of far you have is not indicative of the amount of weight you can loose. E.g., if youre 150 +10%, you would think you could only loose about 7.5 lbs, which would leave you at 5%. Not true IME. As you slim down you will also loose muscle in places where you are not working to maintain it. When I got serious about my diet, I went from about 170 (embarrassed to admit it) to 140 over the course of about 9 months, but my fat only went from about 8.5% to 6.5% (as measured by my bathroom scale). The rest of the weight must have been muscle, which we all know is heavier than fat.

My other main point is that the "do nothing to lose weight" technique also requires a change in diet that mono didn't mention. If you eat the same and do nothing, you will get fat (which might actually make you lighter in the short term, but not a better climber). The key element of the technique is that the reduced activity should reduce your appetite, and only by adjusting your diet accordingly will you actually lose weight.

Something to always keep in mind when hunting for weight loss advice: most people don't actually want to lose weight, they want to lose fat and get lean. This is a big difference, and climbers need to care about weight. Many personal trainers would tell you to do things like intervals and circuit weight training while eating a low fat diet. (which is out dated advice anyway since we know the body will easily convert excess carbs into fat). For a climber, you should not be doing intervals or lower body weight training unless it is high rep, low intensity. And your diet should be low fat AND low carb (basically low calorie) and you should probably watch your protein intake as well if you really want to lose muscle where it isn't needed (so I've been told, but you need to be careful with this, especially when training). There are other threads that address healthy dieting.

To sum up my advice:
-limit high intensity lower body exercise (intervals & lifting)
-train hard for climbing
-restrict your diet (fat, carbs, and protein)
-don't quit when you get under 10%

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By 1Eric Rhicard
May 1, 2012
It is a good sized roof. Photo: Jimbo
I have wished my legs were smaller for 30 years. I used to think about a house with ladders attached to the ceilings so I would never have to walk around.

5 lbs really helps but my experience is that it didn't make me a 13 climber. If you want to climb 13 and harder get on them all the time. Boulder. Do some of the countless training plans you have seen on this site. Then get on 13s all the time. Spend a year doing that and I would bet you will be doing 13s a lot faster.

Good luck.

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By Mike Anderson
From Dayton, OH
May 2, 2012
What about 14's?

15's?

At what point should you pull out all the stops and do EVERYTHING within your power to improve?

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By DexterRutecki
From Cincinnati, Ohio
May 2, 2012
You want to get rid of muscle mass? The only way to do that is to let them atrophy... which means not using them. So like people have already mentioned go out and break your leg or just wheel yourself around in a wheel chair for a month and make sure to never contract your leg muscles.

If your serious about climbing being bed ridden for 3 or 4 weeks should be no big deal so man up and do it, otherwise stop acting like an anorexic teenager.

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By chuck claude
From Flagstaff, Az
May 2, 2012
First climb after knee surgery <br />
JLP wrote:
Mono looks like a wrestler, while the others doing the exact same thing look different. This guy weighs in at 122 lbs: skyrunner.com/bio.htm One of the best high altitude trail runners in history, but didn't make the olympics. Not a whole lot you can do about genetics. Ondra and Sharma look very different as well. Climbing is a cool sport in this way. Final performance is the sum of many nearly equally important things - strength, the mental game, experience and technique, etc. Unfortunate genetics can be compensated for more than in other sports, and there are many areas to specialize in. If none of this works out, you can always find a niche in extreme danger.


Read the guys bio... Impressive considering the longevity but to be named one of the top mountain runners of the year I'd expect more. I'm just hoping that someday there will be enough money in it to entice the Ethiopians to enter these races and go hard.

When my training partner from years back broke the world record at 50K, we talked about this. Alex was/is a pretty decent runner, but even he on runs mentioned that against the Ethiopians, irregardless of the distance, they will destroy him, every day of the week.

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
May 3, 2012
Colonel Mustard
For my height, I would look exactly like a sickle cell at 137 lbs. Unless, of course, my fat ass legs were amputated.

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By Geir
From Tucson, AZ
May 3, 2012
Toofast
1Eric Rhicard wrote:
I have wished my legs were smaller for 30 years. I used to think about a house with ladders attached to the ceilings so I would never have to walk around.


Hahahahahaha

I love this thread. The liposuction in India idea is classic! :)

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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
May 3, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.
johnL wrote:
Just thought I'd add this update. I'm not as skinny as I thought. Even though I dropped to 137 over the fall at one point, I'm closer to 145-7 now. I'd assumed 140. Considering the goal weight was 135 that means I'm over 10lbs heavier than I'd planned to be. It's nice to know that at least some of it is easy to drop flab, not muscle. I'm sorry if paying attention to those little details that actually make a difference offends you. I never meant to piss in your cherios, I just want to get the most out of myself that I can. Psyched!!!


What's up with these guys' one bulbous finger? Anyone else notice it?

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
May 3, 2012
Colonel Mustard
muttonface wrote:
What's up with these guys' one bulbous finger? Anyone else notice it?


I do now. He should get that checked out!

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By AJS
From Boulder, CO
May 3, 2012
In the sea of Cortez - Baja California, Mexico
Isn't that the bowl of the pipes they're smoking out of?

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By ptrgeorge
From Houston, TX
May 8, 2012
Skull cave, Rifle, CO <br /> <br />awesome shot nate!
Your body adapts to the stress you put on it. You want to lose weight, you know you have to cut your caloric intake(how drastic and for how long is up to you), you want to target the muscle mass in your legs, during your caloric restriction avoid activities that would provide stimulus for your legs. Climb as you would normally

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By Austin Sobotka
Apr 25, 2013
On the uphill side of the trail, near the first set of pools. Maybe v2, but fun.
How many, if any, of you have used swimming in the process of losing leg mass/building endurance? I feel like swimming should be the perfect solution for climbers wishing to improve cardio but avoid leg workouts. I am one of those climbers who could benefit by dropping some leg mass, granted i do cycle about 20-30 miles weekly commuting, but that's an improvement from 50-60! Anyways, i plan to stop cycling almost all together over the summer and experiment with swimming. Any head's up, encouragement, or discouragement is appreciated!

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