Human spine found near Prince of Darkness
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I wonder if they are in fact "human remains" or did the newspaper jump to conclusions. If it is human, they should look into some of the cases, depending on how old the remains are, of hikers, climbers, and suicidal folks reported missing over the years in Southern Nevada. That area isn't the most ideal of "body dumping" grounds for criminals in our neck of the woods. |
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Did they only find the spine and it said it was wrapped in a T shirt, thats some weird stuff right there! |
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Animals probably hauled off most of the body, and bones. |
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I don't like being morbid,but this makes me wonder; what happened to Rosholt? A lot of unknowns left after a short blurb like that. |
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Joe Huggins wrote:I don't like being morbid,but this makes me wonder; what happened to Rosholt? A lot of unknowns left after a short blurb like that.John was a very talented climber, strong, experienced and very analytical - I don't believe that he would have ended up soloing in Black Velvet Canyon after leaving his vehicle (a Toyota 4WD) in the Silverton's parking lot. But I have to admit that when I heard this report, it made me think of John. And, after hearing the news, another local climber texted me wondering if they'd finally found him. Ultimately, I believe that John was too proficient a climber for it to cause his disappearance. |
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Dan Meyers wrote: John was a very talented climber, strong, experienced and very analytical - I don't believe that he would have ended up soloing in Black Velvet Canyon after leaving his vehicle (a Toyota 4WD) in the Silverton's parking lot. But I have to admit that when I heard this report, it made me think of John. And, after hearing the news, another local climber texted me wondering if they'd finally found him. Ultimately, I believe that John was too proficient a climber for it to cause his disappearance. Rick Blair wrote:Isn't there a lot of UFO activity in that there desert around Vegas?Hmmmm. Could be. |
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Where exactly was this? |
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Here's a link to a report on the KVBC website with video: |
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I find it odd they talk about the remoteness of the area. Each time I've ever been there I've been one of a dozen or so parties between Frogland and Epi on any given day; it just gets a lot of traffic. |
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It could have been washed down from somewhere during rains. It rarely rains in Southern Nevada, but when it does it pours, and if you have ever been out in Red Rock in downpours, you'll know that waterfalls come out of nowhere (quite beautiful, actually); tearing through gulleys, and pouring down the canyon walls (pay extra attention to all the water streaks on Red Rock Canyon's walls if you're climbing in inclement weather, and be cautious in gulleys, and in chimneys- y'all should know this already). |
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GMBurns wrote:I find it odd they talk about the remoteness of the area. Each time I've ever been there I've been one of a dozen or so parties between Frogland and Epi on any given day; it just gets a lot of traffic. Very weird it hasn't been seen before.Define remote. Many perhaps not enough, find anything beyond the pavement is remote. |
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I recall when John Rosholt was reported missing on rc.com years ago, and for some reason it's haunted me ever since. I didn't know him, but something just seemed lonely and unfair about his disappearance. I thought about him in particular when my partner and I did Johnny Vegas a couple of years ago (supposedly that was Rosholt's nickname). |
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OK, Rosholt story. |
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Dan Meyers wrote: John was a very talented climber, strong, experienced and very analytical -I'm not suggesting that John was soloing;(he talked me into tandem-soloing the Bulge in Eldo...he went first). I think I'm like a lot of people who wonder if he pissed off the wrong guy by winning his money in a game of Holdem. If you've played poker with Rosholt, you know not to take more money than you could afford to lose, and he was making his living at it long before it was a TV show. I realize that it's a pretty long stretch to imagine that some nefarious asshole killed him and dumped his body in Black Velvet; but it makes me wonder, and it makes me sad to think that we may never know what happened to him. |
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He was a close friend and a strong climbing force to all of those in the climbing community in Gunnison in the 70's. He and I were in the geology department together @ WSC. I have a ton of "Gambler" stories, as do most that ever spent any time with him. Good Guy!! |
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I was on Dream of Wild Turkeys on Friday when the helicopter came in for the recovery operation. It went to the top of the route, then hovered over our heads for about 30 minutes. It left, then came back later. We assumed they were looking for a party that got caught out Thursday night. It was 24 deg. F at the trail head when we started, so a bivy would be no fun. It's sad to hear that someone lost their life up there. Nate |
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My gut feeling is that these remains are not John. |
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I agree Phil. |
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Can any of you local Las Vegans fill in some info? Like where and how high up the cliff were the rest of the remains found? |
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The news stories were pretty bad, they kept saying they thought it was a hiker but then described a technical rescue making it sound like it was high on the wall somewhere. |