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By kevin deweese
From Oakland, Ca
Apr 12, 2011
Birds and Beards
Reaing PPTP's aid info is a good idea, with the following caveate:

There's usually a better/dirtier way to get the job done that makes more sense (efficiency-wise) for most trade routes. You'll figure these things out as you go. PPTP's concepts are def more complex and tend to make more sense when on harder routes and when dealing with larger loads than an average climber would use on a normal trade route.

Consider PPTP's info as theory. It's good to know because often you'll find yourself in situations when things go wrong or are unexpected; this is where knowing alternate (aka "the better way") will help you get out of a sticky situation without having to grunt/cry/sweat your way out of it.

By Dustin B
From Steamboat
Apr 12, 2011
Shucka Bra.
John McNamee wrote:
Don't buy a hammer.

Johns info is pretty much right on except for the hammer. While clean aiding the follower SHOULD carry a hammer, it allows the cleaning of tiny aid trinkets much easier and less destructive on both the wires, and if your climbing on sandstone, the placements. We got stuck behind a party attempting lunar x without a hammer, and the follower couldn't clean many many pieces, they ended up bailing and we got almost a full set of HBs. Just take one hammer per party, and in the event of emergency the leader can tag it up :)

By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
May 22, 2011
"Chuck Manburger=Locker?"...

Well I am here as well...

But NO...

NOT ME!!!...

By brian hess
From Logan, Utah
Feb 25, 2012
the glorious pitch 7
fuck it. just buy some aid climbing gear and go do it.

By Keenan Waeschle
From Bozeman, MT
Feb 25, 2012
on top of the RNWF June 2012

here's a TR about doing a wall last year up at index. I find aid is fun to do every once and a while. you can get to some really cool spots hanging on gear. good luck to you.

By the Descender
From . . . CO
Feb 25, 2012
My shadow is forcing me into the overhanging crux....
Mike wrote:
-Slowly start pooping nearer & nearer to your friends, so that you eventually can drop trou & shit mid-conversation. Bonus points for maintaining eye contact. .

Damn that's funny!

By S Denny
From Aspen, CO
Feb 25, 2012
...back from the dead

By s.price
From PS,CO
Feb 25, 2012
 Morning Dew ,self portrait
Being a foreign country that supplies the U.S. with alot of drugs or one that is full of terrorists or both will certainly get you into aid


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