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Oct 30, 2012
Hiking = Climbing? Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
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Oct 30, 2012
V3, Castle Hill, NZ
should they say that they've dabbled in mountaineering instead? They just go ropeless all the time, no big deal ;) A.Javi.Gecko
From San Diego, CA
Joined Mar 15, 2012
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Oct 30, 2012
Hip trouble ...
I dunno, "climber" was shortened from "mountain climber", so it may be that 14er hikers are real climbers and crag rats are just rock climbers! George Bell
From Boulder, CO
Joined Jan 1, 2001
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Oct 30, 2012
Here Randy, got you something. Hope it makes you feel better. You can make stickers and slap one on their windshield.

Have a Nice Day
Have a Nice Day
Buff Johnson
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Oct 30, 2012
thin air
Is it okay to say that I "climbed" out of bed this morning? 2tenttimmy
From bend, oregon
Joined Jun 14, 2007
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Oct 30, 2012
In Scotland instead of hiking it is called hill walking. John Husky
Joined May 10, 2011
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Oct 30, 2012
Randy W. wrote:
Really kinda gets under my skin.


I'm still trying to figure out what the combination of "really" and "kinda" mean...do they just cancel each other out? Either way, why do you care so much? Does it make you feel less cool when you call yourself a climber?
Ian Stewart
Joined May 17, 2010
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Oct 30, 2012
Ian Stewart wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out what the combination of "really" and "kinda" mean


Its absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, ambiguous.
Brian Scoggins
From Boise, ID
Joined Mar 12, 2002
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Oct 30, 2012
Funny thread.

So does leading a 5.7 sport climb with bolts every 8 feet make you more of a climber, then someone hiking or scrambling up a major peak.

If anything the opposite is true.

How about gym climbers do you care if someone who only climbs in a gym calls themselves a climber. Personally I would rather go "Hill Walking".

But to each, his or her own. If you start at the bottom of something and somehow climb: hike, scramble, or technical rock isn't it somehow climbing.

After all there are 6 classes of climbing, the first of which is hiking.
Tim McCabe
Joined Oct 15, 2006
156 points
Oct 30, 2012
So, we are finally moving past the trad v sport debate, and into the mountain "climbing" v rock "climbing" debate. How novel. colin tuck
From Fairbanks
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Oct 30, 2012
Andrew Gram
If you are bothered by this, you are probably an insecure gumbie. I've climbed big walls, new routes on desert towers, lots of peaks in places like the Andes, Caucasus, etc. I never bother to differentiate between whether i've hiked up a mountain or climbed one when i do peaks in places like Colorado. It just doesn't matter and you can have a good time climbing/hiking up a peak. Andrew Gram
From Salt Lake City, UT
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Oct 30, 2012
I nominate this thread for the worst thread of the month award skeeter
From Lakewood CA
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Oct 30, 2012
Who cares…. Superclimber
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Oct 30, 2012
Axes glistening in the sun
First...See rule number 6 "H"
From Manitou Springs
Joined Feb 13, 2006
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Oct 30, 2012
Axes glistening in the sun
Rule #6 States (direct quote)

"Stop taking yourself so goddamn seriously."
"H"
From Manitou Springs
Joined Feb 13, 2006
59 points
Oct 31, 2012
John Husky wrote:
In Scotland instead of hiking it is called hill walking.


or fellwalking -- even more bizarre



Rule #6 is the "skillet"
Buff Johnson
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Oct 31, 2012
Flakes of Wrath
"H" wrote:
Rule #6 States (direct quote) "Stop taking yourself so goddamn seriously."


+1
Paul-B
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Oct 31, 2012
This site is incredible. I can't believe I've been missing out on great threads like this one. Reginald McChufferton
Joined Sep 24, 2012
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Nov 2, 2012
Andrew Gram wrote:
If you are bothered by this, you are probably an insecure gumbie.


Thanks for clearing this up for me. Your exactly right, Ima go wrestle a pebble and jerk off in my chalk bag at the gym. I resign my status as a climber...
Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
Joined Sep 29, 2011
14 points
Nov 2, 2012
The Cathedral Spires in RMNP, left to right: Stile...
Randy W. wrote:
I resign my status as a climber...


I really doubt that. It's obviously hella important to you.
Marc H
From Lafayette, CO
Joined May 10, 2007
280 points
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Nov 2, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after...
Who knew Fred Durst was a climber? Just kidding Randy. I couldn't resist. Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Joined Jul 30, 2011
1,009 points
Nov 2, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV
Mostafa wrote:
Maybe I should have posted it here instead


Please don't reference my thread. I don't want it associated with this one.

Actually, where's this meme?:

"You're trying to break into 5.12? I just climbed a fucking mountain."

Seems apropos. Someone post it, stat.
Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Joined Aug 15, 2008
357 points
Nov 2, 2012
Jon Zucco wrote:
Please don't reference my thread. .


Yeah, that was the winner of the century fella. Do you beat off to yourself in the mirror?
Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
Joined Sep 29, 2011
14 points
Nov 2, 2012
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008
'scrambling' is another Brit term I've heard used for any 3rd class rock hike/climb effort. Some equate it to real rock climbing as we know it. Depends I guess on what side of the pond you live. Woodchuck ATC
Joined Nov 29, 2007
3,091 points
Nov 3, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV
Randy W. wrote:
Yeah, that was the winner of the century fella. Do you beat off to yourself in the mirror?


aw, come on now. I don't mean to make bad blood. It's just that your original post (before you edited it) made this thread seem like one of those pre-designed hate threads. Like you're in some exclusive club because you rock climb and therefore, too cool for hikers.

Look, we're all climbers. And I think we generally all do this for the same reason. So, why not be communal and supportive about it instead of trying to outcast people?

Climbing is climbing, whether it's mountaineering, ice, trad, bouldering, big wall, sport, aid, hiking, tree climbing, radio tower climbing... etc.

Let's not forget the actual definition:

climb-er:
1. A person or animal that climbs.
2. A mountaineer.

Notice it doesn't necessarily specify rock climbing but does in fact make a point to say mountaineering?

here, why don't we see what others have already said in this thread...
Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Joined Aug 15, 2008
357 points
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Nov 3, 2012
El Chorro
Woodchuck ATC wrote:
'scrambling' is another Brit term I've heard used for any 3rd class rock hike/climb effort. Some equate it to real rock climbing as we know it. Depends I guess on what side of the pond you live.


Hill walking is basically what most people in the US would call hiking. Sometimes it is strenuous, but most of the time it is just a walk in the woods (or on a "mountain").

Scrambling involves using your hands and depending on the difficulty of the "scramble" it may involve some 4th and easy 5th class moves. There are different grades of scrambles and some are serious. I think it's more popular in the UK because the terrain lends itself very well to this type of thing. It's actually a lot of fun if it's raining too much to climb and you don't have enough money to drink ale all day.

Then we have this thing called "fell running" where people who are tired of doing triathlons and whatnot decide to go and run up and down muddy hills in the mountains in the worst weather they can tolerate. That is not so much fun.
Ryan Williams
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