By A.Javi.Gecko
From San Diego, CA
Oct 30, 2012
| should they say that they've dabbled in mountaineering instead? They just go ropeless all the time, no big deal ;) | 
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By George Bell
From Boulder, CO
Oct 30, 2012
| I dunno, "climber" was shortened from "mountain climber", so it may be that 14er hikers are real climbers and crag rats are just rock climbers! |
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By Buff Johnson
Oct 30, 2012
| Here Randy, got you something. Hope it makes you feel better. You can make stickers and slap one on their windshield.
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By 2tenttimmy
From bend, oregon
Oct 30, 2012
| Is it okay to say that I "climbed" out of bed this morning? |
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By John Husky
Oct 30, 2012
| In Scotland instead of hiking it is called hill walking. |
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By Ian Stewart
Oct 30, 2012
| Randy W. wrote: Really kinda gets under my skin.
I'm still trying to figure out what the combination of "really" and "kinda" mean...do they just cancel each other out? Either way, why do you care so much? Does it make you feel less cool when you call yourself a climber? |
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By Brian Scoggins
From Eugene, OR
Oct 30, 2012
| Ian Stewart wrote: I'm still trying to figure out what the combination of "really" and "kinda" mean
Its absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, ambiguous. |
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By Tim McCabe
Oct 30, 2012
| Funny thread.
So does leading a 5.7 sport climb with bolts every 8 feet make you more of a climber, then someone hiking or scrambling up a major peak.
If anything the opposite is true.
How about gym climbers do you care if someone who only climbs in a gym calls themselves a climber. Personally I would rather go "Hill Walking".
But to each, his or her own. If you start at the bottom of something and somehow climb: hike, scramble, or technical rock isn't it somehow climbing.
After all there are 6 classes of climbing, the first of which is hiking. |
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By colin tuck
From Laramie
Oct 30, 2012
| So, we are finally moving past the trad v sport debate, and into the mountain "climbing" v rock "climbing" debate. How novel. |
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By Andrew Gram
Administrator
From Salt Lake City, UT
Oct 30, 2012
| If you are bothered by this, you are probably an insecure gumbie. I've climbed big walls, new routes on desert towers, lots of peaks in places like the Andes, Caucasus, etc. I never bother to differentiate between whether i've hiked up a mountain or climbed one when i do peaks in places like Colorado. It just doesn't matter and you can have a good time climbing/hiking up a peak. |
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By skeeter
From Lakewood CA
Oct 30, 2012
| I nominate this thread for the worst thread of the month award |
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By "H"
From Garden of Gods
Oct 30, 2012
| First...See rule number 6 |
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By "H"
From Garden of Gods
Oct 30, 2012
| Rule #6 States (direct quote)
"Stop taking yourself so goddamn seriously." |
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By Buff Johnson
Oct 31, 2012
| John Husky wrote: In Scotland instead of hiking it is called hill walking.
or fellwalking -- even more bizarre
Rule #6 is the "skillet" |
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By Paul-B
Oct 31, 2012
| "H" wrote: Rule #6 States (direct quote) "Stop taking yourself so goddamn seriously."
+1 |
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By Reginald McChufferton
Oct 31, 2012
| This site is incredible. I can't believe I've been missing out on great threads like this one. |
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By Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
Nov 2, 2012
| Andrew Gram wrote: If you are bothered by this, you are probably an insecure gumbie.
Thanks for clearing this up for me. Your exactly right, Ima go wrestle a pebble and jerk off in my chalk bag at the gym. I resign my status as a climber... |
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By Marc H
From Lafayette, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| Randy W. wrote: I resign my status as a climber...
I really doubt that. It's obviously hella important to you. |
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By Jake Jones
From The Eastern Flatlands
Nov 2, 2012
| Who knew Fred Durst was a climber? Just kidding Randy. I couldn't resist. |
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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Nov 2, 2012
| Mostafa wrote: Maybe I should have posted it here instead
Please don't reference my thread. I don't want it associated with this one.
Actually, where's this meme?:
"You're trying to break into 5.12? I just climbed a fucking mountain."
Seems apropos. Someone post it, stat. |
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By Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
Nov 2, 2012
| Jon Zucco wrote: Please don't reference my thread. .
Yeah, that was the winner of the century fella. Do you beat off to yourself in the mirror? |
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By Woodchuck ATC
Nov 2, 2012
| 'scrambling' is another Brit term I've heard used for any 3rd class rock hike/climb effort. Some equate it to real rock climbing as we know it. Depends I guess on what side of the pond you live. |
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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Nov 3, 2012
| Randy W. wrote: Yeah, that was the winner of the century fella. Do you beat off to yourself in the mirror?
aw, come on now. I don't mean to make bad blood. It's just that your original post (before you edited it) made this thread seem like one of those pre-designed hate threads. Like you're in some exclusive club because you rock climb and therefore, too cool for hikers.
Look, we're all climbers. And I think we generally all do this for the same reason. So, why not be communal and supportive about it instead of trying to outcast people?
Climbing is climbing, whether it's mountaineering, ice, trad, bouldering, big wall, sport, aid, hiking, tree climbing, radio tower climbing... etc.
Let's not forget the actual definition:
climb-er:
1. A person or animal that climbs.
2. A mountaineer.
Notice it doesn't necessarily specify rock climbing but does in fact make a point to say mountaineering?
here, why don't we see what others have already said in this thread... |
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By Ryan Williams
Administrator
From London (sort of)
Nov 3, 2012
| Woodchuck ATC wrote: 'scrambling' is another Brit term I've heard used for any 3rd class rock hike/climb effort. Some equate it to real rock climbing as we know it. Depends I guess on what side of the pond you live.
Hill walking is basically what most people in the US would call hiking. Sometimes it is strenuous, but most of the time it is just a walk in the woods (or on a "mountain").
Scrambling involves using your hands and depending on the difficulty of the "scramble" it may involve some 4th and easy 5th class moves. There are different grades of scrambles and some are serious. I think it's more popular in the UK because the terrain lends itself very well to this type of thing. It's actually a lot of fun if it's raining too much to climb and you don't have enough money to drink ale all day.
Then we have this thing called "fell running" where people who are tired of doing triathlons and whatnot decide to go and run up and down muddy hills in the mountains in the worst weather they can tolerate. That is not so much fun. |
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