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By Ali Jaffri
From Westminster, CO
Nov 12, 2012
At the village in Hunza Valley, Karakoram, Pakista...
Has anyone used this?

trainingmask.com/

If you did, does it work?

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By superkick
From West Hartford, CT
Nov 13, 2012
Free Solo up hitchcock gully WI3
lol at this product.

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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Nov 13, 2012
Bocan
superkick wrote:
lol at this product.


Right...looks to me a expensive way to make it hard to breathe.

Just buy a Seirus facemask and go run hills with it...I'm sure it would work almost the same for $15. Or run with something in your mouth. LOL

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By clay meier
Nov 13, 2012
Thats Me
I usually just do situps in my hyperbolic chamber

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By John Wilder
From Las Vegas, NV
Nov 13, 2012
There's a dude at our gym that used to train with a respirator mask on to help regulate his breathing. It seemed to help him a fair bit.

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By csproul
From Davis, CA
Nov 13, 2012
Summit of Wolf's Head with Pingora in the backgrou...
clay meier wrote:
I usually just do situps in my hyperbolic chamber

hypobaric

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By Keith Robinson
Nov 13, 2012
Fitzroy09
csproul wrote:
hypobaric


He may have actually meant hyperbolic, in the sense of hyperbole as in the use of exaggeration for rhetorical purposes.

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By KAValles
Nov 13, 2012
Keith Robinson wrote:
He may have actually meant hyperbolic, in the sense of hyperbole as in the use of exaggeration for rhetorical purposes.


He certainly did!
csproul, I am surprised that you haven't heard of it. It's 7 years old.

theonion.com/articles/amazing-...

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By Dobson
From Butte, MT
Nov 13, 2012
KAValles wrote:
He certainly did! csproul, I am surprised that you haven't heard of it. It's 7 years old. theonion.com/articles/amazing-...


That's absolutely the best article ever in the history of writing!

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By Steve M
From MN
Nov 13, 2012
Scott McMahon wrote:
Just buy a Seirus facemask and go run hills with it...

Or smoke cigarettes, resistance training baby!

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By Glenn Schuler
From Monument, Co.
Nov 13, 2012
A grey fox skull wedged in a crack 100' up on a FA...
These work much better.....


Gimp air resistance mask
Gimp air resistance mask

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By JonnyGreenlee
From Evergreen, CO
Nov 13, 2012
Delicate Arch, Sturdy Arch.
"Imagine, that one day, fatigue and plateau's were a thing of that past with the Training Mask that day is NOW!"

From the website, it seems that its works, at least as far as cutting off oxygen to the brain...

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By sanz
From Raleigh, NC
Nov 13, 2012
One of my first trad leads, on Ooga Chocka at Crow...
that website is fuggin ridiculous

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By Devin Fin
From DURANGO
Nov 13, 2012
dream canyon fun!
i use a dew rag ...
helps me not look ugly
helps me not look ugly

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By superkick
From West Hartford, CT
Nov 13, 2012
Free Solo up hitchcock gully WI3
I feel like the only people buying this are the same people who have zero climbing exp and drop 70k to get short roped up everest.

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By Ali Jaffri
From Westminster, CO
Nov 13, 2012
At the village in Hunza Valley, Karakoram, Pakista...
Actually the mask isn't really designed for climbers specifically. MMA fighters use it. One of the guys at my training gym swears by the Bas Rutten version:

fightercorner.com/bas-rutten-o...

They're very popular with the fighting folks, which is why I wondered if anyone in the climbing community had heard of/used it.

This was the earlier ghetto version in which the guy used a snorkel and tapes:



Anyways thanks for the entertainment.

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By Jason N.
From Grand Junction
Nov 13, 2012
Indy pass
clay meier wrote:
I usually just do situps in my hyperbolic chamber


dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Hype... ??

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By Dylan Colon
From Eugene, OR
Nov 13, 2012
Me fishing for gear on an onsight of Mung.  Photo ...



Thought of this too. I'm such a nerd.

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By "H"
From Manitou Springs
Nov 13, 2012
Axes glistening in the sun
Seems like you could the same by just holding your breath and putting yourself in oxygen debt?. We used to do "hypoxic breathing" in swimming, where you only breath after a certain # of strokes during freestyle sprint work.

Or just take some epo boost and increase your red blood cells.

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By Kevin Connolly
From CO
Nov 16, 2012
pretty sure this is the setup you want.


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By Buff Johnson
Nov 17, 2012
smiley face
Ali, essentially yes, it will play with partial pressures by increasing ventilatory dead space (P-02 decreases as it would with altitude gain), as well as increasing the work of breathing, and the work of the heart. This will influence cardiovascular function and the hemoglobin curve through a few pathways depending on time. However, P-CO2 and relative humidity increases, and even with the exhale valve, it looks like there's also re-breathing CO2 which is typically not a good idea when your body is in a high demand from work.

Whether it's beneficial or not for an individual in question, a physician needs to look at the overall picture.

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By Medic741
From Pittsford, New York
Nov 17, 2012
When I was a bum at Frey
Buff... Are you a doc/pa/np...

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By gary ohm
From Paso Robles
Nov 18, 2012
There's a WHOLE lot more to climbing (or doing anything at altitude) at altitude than just being harder to breath due to less O2 available and in your lungs. Buff hit on a few of them. The partial pressures in all your tissues, (whole body, not just lungs) are affected due to the elevation. I suppose these masks might possibly have some positive side effects, but they don't do anything systemically to prepare you for altitude work.
The fight training actually makes a bit of sense. Getting blasted in the nose takes away much of that breathing path. Then you have a mouth guard taking up much of that space. Then, you have your teeth closed around that mouth guard so your jaw doesn't get broken the next time it gets hit... Not much flow path. That's where Wanderlei's trainers came up with the snorkel and tape idea.

I would imagine the Bas Rutten thing or the snorkel and tape would work for a fighter because it still makes them keep their jaw clenched...

Anyway, this is a climbing forum, sorry for the derail.
I think the mask is ridiculous for climbers training for altitude.

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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Nov 18, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Pea...
A choking mask, hmmm?


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By Buff Johnson
Nov 21, 2012
smiley face
I'm a porn star, btw, for those that asked

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