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Here Today Gone Tomorrow 

YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI British: HVS 5a

Type:  Sport, 1 pitch
Consensus:  YDS: 5.9+ French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI British: E1 5a [details]
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Submitted By: Richard M. Wright on Mar 7, 2002
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HTGT or Toura Obscura?
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Begin Here Today Gone Tomorrow just left of the starts for Mr. Peery and Mrs. Hen. The 5.11 variation runs straight up, the standard line lines dodges left for a short distance. Either way converges on an airy step-over shortly before the anchors. While the 5.11 variation seems contrived, the step-over gives the route some interest.


Ten draws and a rope.

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By Leo Paik
From: Westminster, Colorado
Mar 13, 2002

Way contrived to do the 11d version!

By Jay Eggleston
From: Littleton
Feb 16, 2010

The route described here is called "Toura Obscura" in the Haas and Schneider guidebook. However, in Rolofson's 1995 guide it is called "Here Today Gone Tomorrow". Does anyone know which is correct? In the new guide, "Here Today Gone Tomorrow" is described as two climbs to the right.

By Dave Clark 5.10
From: Golden, CO
Aug 19, 2010

I believe the route being climbed in the photo is Toura Obscura. HTGT and ...Pink Stain share the crack on the right side of the photo. HTGT continues up the bolt line on the arete in the upper right of the photo, which actually trends further to the right than it appears in the photo. Pink Stain continues up the crack system to the double roof and over the second roof. Both Pink Stain and HTGT are 5.10ish and harder than Toura Obscura.

By John Tex
From: Boulder CO
Feb 27, 2014

Can someone explain something to me? I climbed the route titled HTGT in the Haas guidebook, and it calls it a nine, or an 11 if you stick to the arÍte. Also the first bolt is 30 feet up, bring a cam, or clip a bolt for another nearby route. It is a total of 5 bolts. MP says 10... Also, I flashed Bullet the Brown Cloud and the Flying Carrs route, 11b and a respectively, and not only couldn't finish the 11 variation, but could not even find the 9 route! Left of the arÍte there is nothing, so in my opinion you have to do the 11 and stay true to the arÍte.

Am I on the wrong route, is the guidebook off, of did I just get beat on this thing. The line in the guidebook shows you going up to a detached arÍte about 30 feet up, no bolts til then. And if this is Toura Obscura, can this be fixed.

Where is the 9?