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By Morgan Patterson
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Nov 28, 2012
Stoked...

willeslinger wrote:
whatever you get, look for suspenders, I got a pair that didn't have them from Eddie Bauer First Ascent, love the pants, but not until I sewed my own set of suspenders.


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By Martin le Roux
From Superior, CO
Nov 28, 2012
Stairway to Heaven

Josh Wood wrote:
Here's another question for you guys. Would you still wear only soft shells on big routes in the Alaska range or similar? It seems safer to have hard shells to me, although maybe I'm off on this one.


If there's one place where I'd take hard shells it would be a big route in Alaska.

Depending on your budget you could also consider the Arcteryx Alpha SV bib pants. That's what I took to Denali. They'd be overkill at lower elevations but up at 20,000' with the wind howling they were sure nice to have.


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By Ryan Williams
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From London (sort of)
Nov 28, 2012
El Chorro

Another vote for eVent. Excellent breathability - easily outperforms anything that Gore makes. I can't comment on any specific pants but I can't imagine doing any sort of strenuous activity in anything that Gore makes, much less a cheap PU coating like the Marmot Precips. They are great as a cheap emergency waterproof, but they are not in the same league as any pants or jackets w/ PTFE. And they won't hold up in seriously wet conditions. My Precip jacket is a joke after an hour or two of heavy rain.

I'm assuming MH makes pants with their Dry Q Elite, which is the same thing as eVent. Probably worth a look.

FWIW I have an eVent shell and it breathes like a soft shell. I wear it everyday on the bike for at least 5 months of the year. No durability problems yet but it's just a year old and I don't climb in it.


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By Josh Wood
From Oneonta, NY
Nov 28, 2012
hotlum / bolum route on Shasta

I think I'm sold on Rab Latoks. If I have to make suspenders, ill do it. Thanks for all the input guys.


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By willeslinger
From Golden, Colorado
Nov 28, 2012
I was pretty bummed when they didn't greenlight my "Bourne Identity" style reboot of The Eiger Sanction. This was from the rough draft's first act.

Josh Wood wrote:
I think I'm sold on Rab Latoks. If I have to make suspenders, ill do it. Thanks for all the input guys.


You won't with these Latok bibs, no chance for plumber's crack jacket rise either


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By talkinrocks
From Boulder, CO
Nov 28, 2012
Washburns Thumb.  Denali

I got to check out some La Sportiva Stormfighter Pants and they were really nice. Fits great, sounds like what your looking for.


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By Ben Beckerich
From saint helens, oregon
Nov 28, 2012
About half way up the East Arete on Illumination Rock

Try them un-suspended first... I've personally never used, nor had the urge to use, suspenders... maybe there's something I'm missing?


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By Josh Wood
From Oneonta, NY
Nov 28, 2012
hotlum / bolum route on Shasta

Yeah, I've never used or needed suspenders either.


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By Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Nov 29, 2012
Cleo's Needle

Ben B. wrote:
Try them un-suspended first... I've personally never used, nor had the urge to use, suspenders... maybe there's something I'm missing?


After a long day I find that my pack pushes down my pants. I haven't worn suspenders in a while but they do help. The down side is taking off or putting on layers is harder, especially if I'm tucking them into the pants.


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By Nathan Stokes
Nov 29, 2012

I find suspenders much more comfortable in winter, a belt doesn't ride as well under my hip strap and also causes more bunching. I solve the layering problem by wearing the suspenders over the base layer and then continuing the layering over the top of the suspenders. Its a personal fit thing, depends on how you like your pants to ride / how well they sit naturally.


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