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Ground Separation 

V4-5 PG13

   
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Type: Boulder, 15 feet
Consensus: V5- [details]
FA: Luke Childers
Submitted By: Said on Jun 7, 2009

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Description 

Start on two good holds at stomach height with poor feet. Move up on good holds and crimps through tenuous slabby moves to good holds in the seam where the overhang begins. A spicy top out finishes this classic problem over a bad landing.


Location 

From the Trailside Boulder cruise up the hill 50 yards. Next to the Intermediate Egg. If you reach the Pacman problem you have gone too far.


Protection 

Multiple pads, experienced spotters, and a bold mind.



Photos of Ground Separation Slideshow Add Photo
Mike B moving through the overhanging seam.

Mike B moving through the overhanging seam.

Mike B starting up the wave feature.

Mike B starting up the wave feature.

Mike B working Right into the Seam.

Mike B working Right into the Seam.

Photo beta for "Ground Separation."

BETA PHOTO: Photo beta for "Ground Separation."


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By Said
From: Boulder, Co
Jun 7, 2009

FA and name info on this guy is needed. There is also a nice v0 - v1 on the arete to the left of this problem.

By Luke Childers
Jun 9, 2009
rating: V4-5 PG13

Hello Said,
I am not sure if I did the F.A. or if you are talking about climbing straight up the middle of the wave using a sharp/bad left crimp with a quick foot set up and scary toss to the lip!!! If this move is blown and you spotters are not the best serious injury could occur. A great line that is not to be taken lightly. I did the line around 2000 or so after many attempts at working up the nerve to make the final toss to the finish. If you don't find and earlier dated ascent then I guess it would be me. However, I know of two others that were trying the line at the same time I was? I will check with them to see if and when they sent. If we are talking about a different line under the wave because most lines on this wall end up moving left or right.

By Luke Childers
Jun 9, 2009
rating: V4-5 PG13

Oh yea,
I think I was calling it "Ground Separation (V7?)" back then. Not sure of the real difficulty? It's a scary climb!! Thanks...


Luke Childers

By Said
From: Boulder, Co
Jun 11, 2009

Hey Luke,

I'm not sure we're talking about the same line. We started on the jugs. moved right to a good sidepull, then left to a crimp, shuffled the feet up, and gastoned the sharp crimp. We then crossed over to the undercling, and followed that seam right on really good holds to the top and mantled from there. You can see the cross over move in the display picture with dean, and you can see mike working up the seam on good holds. After talking with my friend who sent it, we agree on around v4/v5. I can see how this line would be v7 with out use of that seam, and very proud indeed as the landing is a jumbled bit of rocks. Perhaps there are two lines here. I'll post some more pics to clarify the line we climbed that day.

Thanks,
Said P.

By Luke Childers
Jun 16, 2009
rating: V4-5 PG13

Hey Said,
The line I am talking about goes straight up the center of the wave. No left no right exits. Up and out. Still believe that the direct center line is a solid V7. I'm not sure but I think it's still awaiting a repeat. Now that this one is done for me I have no plans to repeat. As I said earlier... if you blow the lip move on the direct line you could get really heart and that would be a best case outcome I think. Great line but it's one of those you only want to do one time...

Luke Childers

By Janimal
Nov 12, 2011

Matt Mckee direct beta on Ground Separation... V4-7?
youtu.be/vxyA3vM7hJA