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Grivel Mixte vs Goulottes for mixed climbing
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By Paul-B
Dec 30, 2012
Flakes of Wrath

I've got an older set of Grivel ice tools that I like a lot, I have Cascade picks on them right now for ice. I am looking to pick up a set of picks for mixed climbing, looks like there are two options, Mixte and Goulottes. Any opinions on one vs other?


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By Paul-B
Jan 3, 2013
Flakes of Wrath

Bump. Any one have experience with these picks?


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By Jeff J
From Bozeman
Jan 6, 2013

Looks like it is up to you to try them both out and write up a gear review on the two picks as to which is the better dry tooling choice.


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By Paul-B
Jan 6, 2013
Flakes of Wrath

Apparently. I am probably going to get the Goulottes, doubt i will buy both sets. Also, my review might not be worth much, since this is my first season mixed climbing and I have experience with 0 other picks (besides the cascades on there now).


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By scott cooney
From La Casa Taco
Jan 6, 2013
11th hour of the Sundial

I've been using the Goul's for years now, no experience with the mix's. what I will say is the Gouls are bulletproof tough, but the price of that is they can be hard to get a good stick with, and tend to shower ice down on your belayer..... I have dry tooled with them and they do alright but I think I'll be getting the mix's for my next set, mind you my current gouls have been rockin the ice for years, and my spare pick has never been used which is why I haven't tried the mix's yet


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By Jason S.
From Durango, Co
Jan 6, 2013
Attempting the Serrator... didn't go well

I switched to the mixte after breaking a cascade pick in half on moderate terrain. They are not nearly as nice for pure ice, as they are a bit tougher to clean, and they tend to displace more ice, causing more fracturing. I use them for mixed climbing, and climbing in the mountains; they seem bombproof. I am on my third season with them, probably 40-50 pitches of mixed, and they are holding up great. I am not sure, but I think that the pick angles are different between the goulottes and mixte because they were designed for different generations of tools. I think the cascade and mixte are newer than the goulottes. Also, the words on the side of the pick provide grip when pick torquing, good stuff.


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By Paul-B
Jan 6, 2013
Flakes of Wrath

Thanks for the input Jason. My tools are pretty old I think (Taakoons), but since they have cascades on them, I am assuming that the mixte would match the angle better (I just looked it up, this is true, thanks for pointing that out). So mixtes it is.

Perhaps I will try filing the tip a bit to stick ice a bit better. Obviously mixed picks are not going to be as good as ice picks for ice, but I have heard of people shaping the tips of other picks that have similar problems, and it helping to some degree.


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By Bob A
Jan 12, 2013

Hey Paul,
I have a set of Mixte picks for sale if you are interested.$50.00 shipped for the pair.good shape.www.mountainproject.com/v/nepal-evos-435north-face-nupse-dow>>>

I hope the link works.
cheers,
Bob


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