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By patrick donahue
From Gunnison, Colorado
Mar 6, 2012
me climbing at lost horizon, NH
So i am in the market for a new pair of shoes and want a shoe that is geared toward trad climbing and is good on granite such as the Black Canyon and also for back East like Cathedral ledge. so what would you suggest for long route and moderate to hard trad lines on granite?

By JesseT
From Portland, OR
Mar 6, 2012
25' drop...wheeeeee!
The real question is: how can they both be five ten's stiffest shoe as their website claims?

The real answer is: it depends how much you like your ankles/which one fits better.

By Kilroywashere!
From Harrisonburg, Virginia
Mar 7, 2012
i have the grandstones and a buddy has the newtons, he has really weird f'd up feet(like upturned toes and all that shit) as well as a slight case of mortons toe, and the newtons are the only shoes he can well and climb in. i have a really wide foot, in addition to a tailors bunion on one foot, and the grandstones are f'n awesome to wear, i bought them in the same size as my guide tennies and i can wear them all day, as well as climb 10s in them pretty easily

they both are pretty stiff, one thing about the grandstone, they are a pain in the ass to put on and take off. other than that i have no qualms and would reccommend them to anyone if the fit is right.

By Dave Cummings
From Grand Junction, CO
Jan 25, 2013
me on my redpoint
TC Pro


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