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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
May 28, 2009
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FULFORD REVISITED (mostly photo)TR:

Well this weekend was pretty moist, so that meant it would be great for caving. We were trying to go to some caves out in the flat tops wilderness but it turns out the road was still covered in snow around 10,000 or 10,500'. After accepting defeat we decided our only other option with out access to the net would be to go back to fulford as spring cave would be more full of water now then it was before.

So off we went with the intention of checking out the upper passages more entirely.

We were fortunate enough to be able to drive all the way to the TH this time which made life easier. This time there was no snow all the way to the cave. We decided to drop into a different entrance this time.



I found the JFK room this time.




After that we made our way to the upper area of the cave. Where to my suprise we actually saw a fair amount of cool spetheolims.








I eventually found my way into the stove pipe.


which led to more rooms with even cooler spetheolims.
Some moon milk covered the ceiling of one of them:




I'm not sure but I think we missed the attic. I think there is a possibility that the passage into the attic is the crawlway visible above the big formation,which looked possible but possibly a bit dangerous.



This ceiling was covered!


Back into the stove pipe.



More spetheolims.






The big meanderer on the way out.

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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
May 28, 2009
Growing a winter coat in Red Rock Canyon- December 2013.
Awesome trip report, and even more awesome caving pictures- I used to do a little bit of caving with some secretive cavers awhile ago. I miss it. Thanks for posting, Jason!

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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
May 28, 2009
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.
Mike Lane wrote:
Jason- Probably the first and foremost thing you need to know about caving is that the mere touch of a feature with human skin will "kill" it; which is why Fulford is considered a dead cave.


Well, really all that does is discolor the formation. Also, crowds of people touching formations tends to keep them coated in oils, which then repels the water that deposits the calcite. However, we are talking about formations that may have taken many, many thousands of years to form. A few people touching it is a speck of lint on a football field. That whole thing is just horse manure they tell tourists so they will keep their hands to themselves.

I used to have the one book that has quite a few of Colorado's caves in it. Lloyd Paris was the author. Sold it to a guy that was more interested in caves here than I. Now "Groaning Cave" is one that comes highly recommended as a 'caver's cave' which is code for "miserable."

Very nice TR, Jason! Cool pictures. I'll have to do Fulford sometime. Gi-gi, if you come visit we can hit that. Otherwise I'll have to go with you to Mexico where the big caves are.

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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
May 28, 2009
Growing a winter coat in Red Rock Canyon- December 2013.
Stich wrote:
Gi-gi, if you come visit we can hit that. Otherwise I'll have to go with you to Mexico where the big caves are.


Sounds cool! I've always been intrigued by caves.

addendum: Just in case you were patrolling to catch me ridin' dirty; I swear, I didn't think of anything bad, or morally wrong when I saw the title of this thread.

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By Matt Nelson
From Pueblo, CO
May 29, 2009
Me rappin...
Jason, thanks for the awesome TR! Looks like you guys had a blast!

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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
May 29, 2009
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I'm glad you all enjoy my efforts. I think I will keep posting these trips for others to live vicariously through me. I have a feeling in the future I am going to be going in to more remote and less documented caves. I may with hold the names and locations of these types of caves but not the story of the adventure or the pictures.

Oh and GIGI, I'm sure the title of the thread had nothing to do with you jumping in... Atleast it isn't something like 'tight holes...' I was thinking about starting a thread along that line of a name, then I searched this forum and found this thread so I just revived it as the title was a decent double entandra already.

Matt it was a blast, however I did feel slightly let down. Our goals for the weekend were much larger then the accomplishments added up to be. Either way it was a good trip and experience, the harder much bigger caves can wait for now.... till the snow melts and it's bad weather again.

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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
Jun 1, 2009
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Lime Creek Area TR:
Well this weekend was kinda morphed in the end, I had planned to ski Mt. Evans on Saturday and ended up caving (the tower fault cave) in CCC near the stumbling block. I had hoped to get out climbing this weekend and Sunday was to be the day as I've been climbing hard lately and I needed an extra day of rest. Well I run into a friend on Saturday and we discuss climbing on Sunday. He sounds interested but when he asks where I want to go I draw a blank. I ask where he would like to go and again blank... After hearing about all the caving I have been doing lately and all of the trips he couldn't go on, he starts trying to talk me into going caving. Well since last weekend fell short of the intended plans I felt this would be a good option to try to make up for the lack of success last time(plus I'm getting my fair share of climbing in now also). Not to mention the monsoon season we've been having, it was not hard to talk me into it.

Because of how last weekend went I decided to pick and area with alot of options close to each other. The lime creek area near fulford seems to be a good option as I already have a good idea how to get there and what to expect for road conditions.
I plot all the caves in the area on a google map and take pictures of it since I have no GPS or maps or printer. We meet up at 4 am on Sunday and take off.

We're both pretty excited as this will be pretty much the first time finding a cave all on our own based on gps coordinates alone.

The drive out was really scenic.
We were treated to a nice subtle sunrise over the gores:



We passed a lake, went over a pass, and were treated to this(views of holy cross wilderness I think):



And better yet this(sweet views of the NY Mtns.):






We pass a Resevoir and then we turn onto the road that takes us to the caves. Little did we know the road was closed not too much further but we are close enough to walk it. So we stop at the gate and gear up and head out. Our first destination is called herbies deli. We find the pit entrance and scramble down into what we're assuming is herbies based on what we know. It's still filled with snow and ice in the bottom and we think the entrance is covered still so we leave, bummed as it seems like it might be pretty cool as ropes are required to descend it and I think it's suposed to be somewhat large. We come back out and walk less then 300 yards to the next cave called Skylight, we get in and look at the skylight and find it seems there is no more passage, possibly due to ice or collapse?
The skylight:


At this point I'm slightly frustrated as 2 of the few good sounding caves truned out to be a flop.

Determined we press on there are 3 more down off the plateau on the hill side below the cliffs not too far from here. I'm a little unsure as it seems finding a cave on the tree covered slope below could be tricky. One is at the base of the cliff face (cliff face cave) but lime creek and grovers den are scattered randomly. We find a cairn near where we should be dropping off the top, and skirt the cliff for a safe place to descend near by. It starts raining before were down on the hill below which makes getting down that much more interesting. I remember thinking if this keeps up how are we going to get back up? We are on a path and I see a hole at the base of the cliff so I continue the direction of the path but slightly up hill towards the cliff. Nice! Turns out I found the cliff face cave (atleast that's what were assuming).

At first we thought it might be lime creek as lime creek was supposed to start with 200' of tight crawlways to get into.

The first crawlway was less then 40' long before you could get a pocket to sit up. Then immediately you went into another crawlway that gradually got pretty tight:

This crawlway was about 100' or so, then you get another pocket and then another short 40' or less crawl. At that point you were into the walkable passages. We really thought there was a good chance this was lime creek. The formations inside of this cave were alot different then that which I had seen before. It reminded me alot of coral (brain coral specifically). It also seemed like solid cottage cheese. Like popcorn cielings too. wierd.








There were some formations that seemed a little more what like I usually see:




The short description for lime creek stated 1200' of passages, the first 200 being tight crawlway and the upper section being a tough climb to reach. We had seen maybe 4-600' of passage at this point.
this spot kinda looked like it could be the tricky climb to the upper passage:

I sent Nathan up first to check it out. and he deemed it was way to tight to be passable. And so we went back out. Slightly stumped I hang out at the mouth as it's raining and I have no rain gear. Nathan has rain gear though so I send him out to look for the other 2 caves (must be lime creek and grover's). He bushwacks around and spots a couple of things but he thinks they are un-likely as there is a critter living in one of them and the other is up on the cliff face which is soaked and would be hard to spot. Frusterated at this point I figure this could be a complete waste of time in these conditions trying to find caves on a forested hill in the mist and rain. However there are probly 4 or 5 more caves to be seen on top of the plateau. One of them says 1400' of passage and ropes required so naturally we sprint off for that one. At this point it has stopped raining so when we get back to the road which we walk on, we snag some lunch and realize we are pretty close to where we're going....... I need a short intermission. Part 2 (the best part) comming shortly with a ton of pictures.

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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Jun 1, 2009
Growing a winter coat in Red Rock Canyon- December 2013.
Super cool, Jason!! The pictures are gorgeous, and I'm looking forward to part two! Keep em coming!

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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
Jun 1, 2009
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Onto the next cave...
The powerline cave, I think this is hands down the coolest I've yet been into.

  • ****excuse some of the blury images, I was shooting with out the flash to achieve some different lighting effects and I had no tripod for the extended exposure. I still think most of them look great so I'm still posting them, let me know what you think.

The cave is pretty easy to find as you guessed it, it's on a powerline. The entrance is about a 40'pit:


At the bottom there seems to be 2 possibilities, #1 squeeze into a crack or #2 keep rapping through snow and ice 20 feet into a different hole.
I told nathan to check out the squeeze while I feed more rope through the anchor for option #2.

He finds out that it keeps going so down I come bringing the other rope just incase but leaving it at the bottom of the pit for now as we don't want to drag more then needed through squeezes or crawl ways. On the inside I'm pleasently suprised to find that this cave is well decorated. It also has a fun inviting slot canyon type shape to it with virtually no splits to confuse you and nice hallways which are mostly walked and crouched through.
The first thing we saw was some cool dams that had filled in with some clearish mineral like a clear coat:


In this shot you can make out a red cave centipede in the groove at the last knob on the ridge rising from the lower left of the photo:


There were also some nice decoration on the wall near there, some draperies I believe:


A cool spike through a larger crawl:


More cool decorations:






At some point along the way we did a short slot / chimney esque down climb. We came up to the next drop which was 10-20' and pretty damn sheer and slick. We found there was already webbing with knots tied to hold onto for a hand line and there was foot holds to use. Down we go:


After some more passage ways and some more features we encounter the next problem...


There is another drop this time much larger and no way to down climb it. We have to go back for the rope... I'm tired and feeling reluctant, however Nathan is psyched and offers to go back for the other rope and harness. While I wait for his return I scout the drop and the anchor sittuation. I find 3+ features I can work with all of which I think will be substantial on their own. Nathan is back in a snap as we're only a couple hundred feet in at this point and I rig up off of 3 solid features. I drop in first after checking to make sure we have our ascent gear:



Along the way down you are right next to an inspiring decorated wall. The rap is probly 40-60' with decoration for most likely 30-40' of it.




There was so much cool stuff to look at and take pictures of at the bottom that it ate up the time:












We made our way deeper from there down the slot canyon esque hallway as it squeezed and pinched into crouching passages and finally some tight crawl ways. Tons more cool decorations through all this stretch before the tight crawl.





A deep damn, more like a resivoir:



Crazy serrated curtains:




The upper section of a monster curtain that we crawled under:

The middle:

The bottom:


More cool decorations before the crawlway:



More massive dams back to back, never seen this before:



Another serrated curtain, it looked like a sharks jaw. Apon closer inspections the serrations looked cup shaped like it was dams on the edge of the curtain.



This looked like a crystal forming above the tight but fairly short crawl section.


After the crawling we came to a photogenic aesthetic paradise....





Wierd growths on this stalagtite, like barnicales. some nice soda straws aswell.









After carefully crawling back through here there was another tight crawl. I sent Nathan ahead and he got about 15' in before the doubt set in. From this point it kept squeezing down but I coaxed him on "if there is a room on the other side don't you want to see it?"
"go as far as your comfortable but try to go as far as possible with out getting stuck". He reluctantly agrees and goes another 15 feet before he says "dude I don't think this is going to go with my helmate on, or period really". He said it's flagged back to there so it might go but not for us. Nathan squirmed back wards 15' till a small pocket where he turned around. This is the begining of that crawl with him comming back out, TIGHT!

It was around 6pm at this point so we decided to take off. Looking down after ascending the rope on the last drop:


The end, Enjoy!

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By Old and Busted
From Centennial, CO
Jun 1, 2009
Stabby
Awesome. Thanks for that!
I would bet you will be getting contacted from the local cavers any time now.

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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Jun 4, 2009
Growing a winter coat in Red Rock Canyon- December 2013.
Thanks for all the great photos, Jason; It energizes me, and makes me feel like I'm there. I've come back to this thread several times just to be there again. : )

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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
Jun 4, 2009
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Thanks, I'm glad! That sort of thing energizes me to keep posting this stuff despite all of the effort it can sometimes take.

I think were shooting for another hole this weekend. Probly premonition if we can make it there, there will be a back up plan this time for sure though just incase. I need to charge the battery's for my camera!

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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
Jun 9, 2009
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TR: Deep Creek Canyon Area (INTRO, part 1 of 2)

Well I wanted to ski Mt. Evans on Saturday and go Climbing on Sunday, but my friend Steven had other plans in mind for me. He talked me out of climbing due to weather forecasts for Sunday and talked me into going caving. I ended up staying at his house on Friday night as I was planning on skiing with him on Saturday. We had to wait for a friend of his till around noon before we could take off anyway. Being un-motivated for the most part we slept through our morning ski departure time and once awake did not feel the urge to go skiing. Instead we leisurely woke up ate some food and got our gear all packed up in the truck. I also washed my rope in his tub for a solid hour while my cover all's were washed in his machine.

Well it turns out his friend is not going so we go to get food and beer for the night and next day and we are off on the road. The crew starts off as Steve, Nate and I in one truck. Then Steve's dad and uncle met up with us in a different truck at Idaho Springs. We all rally up to Dotsero, with hopes of seeing premonition. I had scouted our options on google maps and took screenshots with my camera for reference. I had spotted a road that goes up off sweet water that seems like it would cut miles off the normal approach up and around the head of the canyon. Well we get there to find that the road is on private land, go figure.

So we go back down the Colorado and head up the road up to the canyon rim. The drive is really nice as you get 2-3 mountain ranges in the back ground (Gores? NY's, and the Elks):






Since we were coming from this side I decided that it would be advantageous for us to hang in the area near fixin to die as there are quite a few caves in the area. If we can manage to find fixin to die we will easily have a very full day of caving for the following day. Even if not we can probly make a full day out of it. We locate the area and find a nice camp site out on a point on the rim not far from the caves.We wander around for a while before it starts to get dark trying to get some bearing on where we really are and where the caves might be.

There are a lot of prospects across the canyon towards where I would guess premonition resides.




I had no idea the canyon was quite this large:



It was hard to tell what was below us though as the cliff was sheer at the rim. Before we set up camp we wandered the rim trying to orient our selves and make sure we were in the right spot before wasting time to set up camp and take it down again to go looking some more elsewhere.

Eventually I caught a view of this sucker:

Nathan and I decided to try to find a way to walk down to the base as it looked like there was a path along the base of the cliff. We weren't equipped to go caving at this point in time, we were just scouting as it was getting later in the afternoon. We got down to the cave we spotted from above via a break in the cliffs to our N NW and figured it kept going. Mainly because someone dragged logs up the slab at the mouth of the cave up to the hole that went up from there. We figured if someone took the trouble to drag 2 logs up here then it's got to be something. We decide to wander a little more to really verify we are in the right spot. Not far to the S SE was another hole slightly up from the path maybe 10'or so up the cliff. I went up and in far enough to know it most likely kept going (maybe 50-100' back in to the thing using my lighter). Feeling fairly confident that we are in the right spot, we head back up. On the way I find a fun way to scramble back up with more exposure then the walking path, but enough features to manage the risk reasonably. I'm 1/2 to 3/4 up the thing and Nathan calls out to me saying he's found something else.

The view from camp is great as your right on the rim:

I spotted a couple other possible options up canyon:


We set up camp and feasted around a very nice fire. After that we wandered out to the rim to envy the full moon in such a spectacular place.

The moon was lighting up thin clouds that passed by with a very cool iridescent translucent spectrum of colors:

The lower light in this one is my friend Stevens head lamp


We stayed up till between 11 and 1 depending on who you were, then went to bed with the anticipation of the big day to come. I couldn't help to think we might be sleeping right over a cave and possibly a large one at that.

INTERMISSION

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By no1nprtclr
From Front range Colorado
Jun 9, 2009
AAhhh man with a post title like that one, I thought, well.... Damn, duped again.... Oh well the photos are pretty cool, but man try not to be so misleading with the name of your post next time...LOL.... =)

Juan

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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
Jun 10, 2009
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The next morning we woke up and ate and took off for the caves around 7-7:30. We first explored the cave Nate found at the end of our scouting mission the evening before. Talk about a squeeze. Nate had the privilage of going first as he found it and he's the squeeze master Mr Wiggles as I call him.
Nate "goin down" the entrance squeeze which was wider than what waits below:

I go next as I'm the next size up for our groups body types. The first squeeze is a little tight, I have to put my arms above my head and slip through. Really it's just a warm up though. I get through and Nate is below me, the cave is like a slide going down. The next section we are not too sure about, kinda looks like a dig as there are sticks in there that seem to be used for digging. After pulling a couple of handfuls of dirt back from the hole Mr. Wiggles slips through no problem. It was crazy as the cave stopped going down and went flat right at the tightest spot.
Damn:

Once he got through the passage widened gradually into a small room where it was comfortable enough to sit or crouch. I didn't think I was going to get through and the first couple attempts were quite laughable. Eventually I pushed a bit of dirt through to Nate and I somehow managed to slide through. He went head first on his stomach but I don't know how his back bent like that as I don't think mine would. I kept sliding feet first on my butt.

Nate poping his head back through before I slid through:


We hung out in the room for a little and realized that was the end of it unfortunately. We realized it was probly a dig or a study area for someone as there were some interesting mineral deposits, but not much passage(maybe a 100'). Back out we go, it took me a little while but I got back out eventually after a good bit of tenderizing moaning and groaning.

I think this one might be called mud hole?

Next we went to check out the cave with the wide mouth and logs wedged for upward passage into the darkness. One of Nates trades is being a lumber jack of sorts so he eagerly offered to climb the logs up into the darkness. This cave was pretty neat as it had a fair amount of mossy looking features aswell as some pink rock.

At this point in time it was snowing outside.
Looking back out the mouth of the cave:

The first log climb:

Some of the mossy and pink rock features near the first upclimb:


Once Nate got up he realized there was another even more sketchy exposed up climb so we opted to bring the rest of the group up to a pocket beside the next climb and put Nate on belay. Nate somehow makes it up. He says there isn't much up there and it dead ends. Also that the climb was sketch and that if we want to come up we should fix a line to ascend for the easiest option. I decide I'll go up but the other's don't want to bother as there is more to see in other holes so they hang in the pocket.
A pic of the second climb looking back to the belay hole as I ascend the fixed rope:

Nate tied off the jambed log for pro, and had to make a few more free moves above what you can see in this photo.

There was some cool stuff on the way up:




I'm guessing this is the curtain room cave.

Next we went to the other cave to the S SW not more then 50-100' down canyon. We are assuming this is the ice box based on the formations seen inside(freezer ice and coral looking stuff):





I'm tired but there is still 4 more caves to go. Sorry I guess this will be part 2 out of 3 hopefully. Enjoy I will post up the other 4 tomorrow or Thursday evening.

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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
Jun 10, 2009
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Alright I'm back for another round of story telling...
I think I'll start by informing you all of our plans to give some perspective on this next part of the story.
There is a very large cave which is in the area called "feels like I'm fixin' to die"(I'll just label it as FTD). There is also about 9 other caves in the area. We planned to check out honkey as it was described as well decorated and roybals as it's only 300' long and is our land mark to find FTD. This plan would allow us maximum time to explore FTD. There is also an un-identified cave right near honkey so we figured we would check it out also. At the time we were assuming the curtain room cave was honkey and the ice box cave was the un-identified cave. We took off from there expecting to find roybals next then FTD. Here is where we realized our assumptions were quite off. We came to the next cave and went in:

Disappointed to find a register labeled honkey. CRAP!
It was around noon then and we figured we were doing alright on time prior to this. We didn't know how big honkey was so we weren't so sure anymore. Since it was supposed to be well decorated we checked it out anyway. It sure didn't meet my expectations but it was still pretty cool.
Moon milk stalagtites:

some other formations:



Mr Wiggles in action again on another crawl:

The entrance had some cool moss growth:

We came back out and took off walking again, we passes the un-identified cave on the way to roybals. We were short on time now and really wanted to see FTD. We came up to roybals and decided to pass on it aswell. On the way to the next visible hole we came across a waterfall and deep steep drainage that had to be crossed. It looked possible but not worth the risk as we had no rock pro and a slip up could be deadly. We decided we could probably rap in from above and that would be safer so we headed back toward a spot where we could climb back up to the rim.

We decided to check out roybals on the way back as it was supposed to be short, I'm glad we did as it was cooler then honkey IMO.
The goods:





Nate shining his light through a thin curtain:


more formations:



There was even some good squeezes, I had to twist my way through one of them:


Also the entrance was pretty sweet as it had a really cool skylight:



We climbed back up and walked over to the top of this:

We figured we were on the right path as we saw a rope tied up between a couple of trees, but it didn't go anywhere. I thought it was some sort of marker, we had to be on the right path.
We walk a bit closer to the lip of the rim and rig up my 60M climbing rope.
We aren't sure how far down it is so I go first with the ascenders and second rope in my pack just incase.

I'll admit I was a bit nervous as the nature of the rap had the end of the rope out of sight till the last 30 or so feet. I got down however with no problems and a mere 15' to spare!
Nate came down next (Steve's knee hurt so it was just the 2 of us now):



We go to the mouth of the cave and find a large pile of stacked rocks in the alcove. We figure it's got to be the right place. It looks like the entrance might be a crawlway so I go and check it out only to find it pinch out very quickly. We look around for any other options and all that turns up is we are supposed to stand on the pile of rocks and go up the hole in the ceiling. So up we go...

I should mention that considering FTD is 266' deep we have another 60m and another 60-100' stretch of rope for raps or hand lines. This plus a bunch of water,2 spot lights and extra headlamps and batteries, an extra fleece top a camera and 50+' of webbing and vertical ascent and descent gear. The hole going up got a bit tight as you chimneyed up, making getting the packs up a real pain in the ass. Eventually we came to a split after much agony and it trended horizontally luckily so we could catch a break.
Turns out one of the splits dead ends shortly(I see light coming through a small hole (10"), and the other goes out to another opening a was up the cliff face. Frustrated as hell we go back down the chimney hole, this time much easier as gravity did all the work with the packs. it's about 5 pm at this point in time and the desperation is setting in. We have to atleast find the entrance of FTD. So before climbing back up the rope we search around a bit. I find this just around the corner:


I needed to verify so we went in and Nate explored a 15' pit that dead ended. I noticed a possible way up through the ceiling, but it was very exposed and looked un-traveled. I had to verify so up I went, carefully. I was about 30' above the pit at this time so it would have been very ugly had I slipped (45' drop into a hole).

When I got inside I hade a grim realization. I had just came in the hole Nate explored in the last cave and I was indeed in the same small stupid cave. Back out and down I went the way I came for practice. CRAP.

I kept walking S SW and found this:


Again we needed to verify so in we went. unfortunately this one dead ended aswell. It was about 5:45 now and we had to go, so back up the rope we went. As I waited for Nate to come back up I spotted a large stack of rocks our on the prow to my S SW and thought it was a little odd. There were some holes at the base however so I found it more interesting then odd. We spaced some gear at the drop point and I didn't realize till I got back to camp so once I got my stuff packed up to leave I walked back over and retrieved it. I had a hunch I should walk over and look to see what the cairn is all about.
So as is often a good idea I let my intuition lead my path. Once at the cairn I see a crack going into the ground deeply but it's only like 4" so that can't be it. Slightly puzzled I walk out along the edge of the cliff investigating possibilities. Sure enough I find 2 bolts spaced 2-3' apart with no hangers but nuts still attatched. I find it odd that there could be a single climbing route alone up here (not that it would be crappy climbing but rather there would be alot of routes to accompany it more then likely due to the quantity and quality of rock around)and that the bolts could be spaced so widely and with out hangers. I hadn't seen any other climbing routes/bolts in the 1/2-3/4 of a mile I walked along the base and the same distance on top. I figure that's got to be it, but I have no way to know for sure untill I go back and rap off the extremely sheer/overhanging prow. I was getting slightly spooked thinking about it as I stood there alone looking at the bolts.

I've been in contact with Dan at caves are for all and he sent me some more clues. That's how I have an idea what caves we were actually in besides the ones with the registers(just honkey and roybal). Turns out the short cave with dual entrances is called the buttress cave and the other one we explored at the end is called the cosmic bananna. Neither were really that worthy of pictures especially since we were short on time.

All in all it was a great trip even though we didn't find FTD. Nate and I went into 7 caves total this trip which is pretty damn good. I wasn't really that impressed by what I saw mostly (the powerline cave is still my favorite so far), though obviously some stuff was cool enough to shoot pics of.

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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Jun 10, 2009
Growing a winter coat in Red Rock Canyon- December 2013.
What adventurous souls you are! I love your TRs and pictures, Jason. Thanks again for taking me there! : )

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By Jason Kaplan
From Glenwood ,Co
Jun 23, 2009
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Teaser for Fixin to Die:


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By Buff Johnson
Jun 23, 2009
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By Buff Johnson
Jun 23, 2009
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Orange you glad I didn't say "bumpalicious" again??


(that should do it Jay)

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