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By John Husky
Nov 7, 2012
Quoting the DL to justify a entirely self indulgent, liesure based lifestyle is a bit much, don't you think. Perhaps you should consider a life of chastity, charitable work and meditation.

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By Eric Coffman
Nov 7, 2012
mountainlion
Seems some posters like RockyMtnTed feel the need to let us all know how financially successful they are. They have good credit ratings use credit cards and generally have no financial worries.

They forgot to mention they hardly ever climb. This thread is about those of us who do climb alot and how we are able to do it since no employer will ever give you enough time off to follow your passion. This is what drives climbers to the simple life.

As far as making a difference in society you can do that and have a simple life at the same time. I have. Check out the "spread the climbing wealth. Please" thread.

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By Ryan Williams
Administrator
From London (sort of)
Nov 7, 2012
El Chorro
Eric Coffman wrote:
Seems some posters like RockyMtnTed feel the need to let us all know how financially successful they are. They have good credit ratings use credit cards and generally have no financial worries. They forgot to mention they hardly ever climb. This thread is about those of us who do climb alot and how we are able to do it since no employer will ever give you enough time off to follow your passion. This is what drives climbers to the simple life. As far as making a difference in society you can do that and have a simple life at the same time. I have. Check out the "spread the climbing wealth. Please" thread.


I will take between 8 and 10 weeks of paid holiday next year. Will climb in France, Spain, Greece, Turkey, Norway, California... Oh yea and the UK. And I am by no means rich or highly successful. But I work hard and I have my priorities straight. I also have a wife that allows me to climb whenever I want and joins in when she feels like it.

The rat race is something that Americans invented. In most parts of the developed world, it's easy to find an employer that will give you loads of time off. There is also the benefit of not having health insurance payments. That money alone is enough to fund a two week trip to California from London.

As far as contributing to the world and still living simply, you are right on. Making the world a better place doesn't have to be about doing big things. Giving back to your local community and cultivating meaningful relationships there are the most important ways to "make a difference."

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By Eric Krantz
From Black Hills
Nov 7, 2012
smoke break, pitch 5 or 6 (or 7??) of Dark Shadows
Ryan Williams wrote:
As far as contributing to the world and still living simply, you are right on. Making the world a better place doesn't have to be about doing big things. Giving back to your local community and cultivating meaningful relationships there are the most important ways to "make a difference."


Exactly. I've been volunteering at a local food coop for almost 10 years, and the connections I make there outweigh, uh, well, a very large weight. :P

Brandon Howard wrote:
Ben Dover...where you at now man?


Maybe he's checking the birth certificates of everyone in Ohio.

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By David Barbour
From Denver
Nov 7, 2012
Ryan Williams wrote:
I will take between 8 and 10 weeks of paid holiday next year.


Shit man, what do you do? I need to switch careers.

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By Tim McCabe
Nov 7, 2012
David Barbour wrote:
Shit man, what do you do? I need to switch careers.


Note that he's in London, good luck finding an American Co willing to give you that much paid time off.

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By Ben Dover
Nov 7, 2012
Brandon Howard wrote:
...on another note Ben Dover...where you at now man? sure we wont hear from you for another four years...again

like I expected Johnson to win? just another day for me dudes. gotta get back to stocking the bunker. Cya in 4!

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By Olaf Mitchell
From Paia, Maui, Hi,
Nov 8, 2012
rockerwaves
It's just that simple.
It's just that simple.

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By Jon Zucco
From Denver, CO
Nov 8, 2012
yaak crack Red Rock Canyon, NV
Olaf Mitchell wrote:


i wanna buy olaf a beer.

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By Sam Stephens
Nov 9, 2012
Top half of Melifluous
Speaking of rat race, I'm up at 2am for a 3am concrete pour and then working all day as usual after. Y'all have a good day.

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By Ezekiel Thornton
From Akron, Ohio
Nov 9, 2012
Top of Castleton
The grass is greener on the side..?

Can only find out if you try

Just cover your 6

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Nov 9, 2012
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"Seems some posters like RockyMtnTed feel the need to let us all know how financially successful they are. They have good credit ratings use credit cards and generally have no financial worries.

They forgot to mention they hardly ever climb"




ROFL!!!

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By kirra
Nov 9, 2012
Jon Zucco wrote:
i wanna buy olaf a beer.

+1 cheers~
maui makes some great beer but I have to swim 2000...
maui makes some great beer but I have to swim 2000+ miles to get it

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By NickinCO
From colorado
Nov 9, 2012
after the hard stuff, into cruiser hands.
Locker wrote:
"Seems some posters like RockyMtnTed feel the need to let us all know how financially successful they are. They have good credit ratings use credit cards and generally have no financial worries. They forgot to mention they hardly ever climb" ROFL!!!


Just spends all his time here acting like a douchebag!

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By Olaf Mitchell
From Paia, Maui, Hi,
Nov 9, 2012
rockerwaves
jon and kirra I'll take you up on that beer offer and then I'll buy the next round. OK?

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By addicted2alpine
Nov 9, 2012
maui coco porter! yes, that is my favorite beer! had plenty of that in san diego but unfortuanetly they dont have it on offer in norway. anyone wanna send me some? haha!

i know i am keeping this thread off topic (as the op asked for real advice from those who have given up the 'comfort' life for the 'simple' life) but i will throw my 2 cents in since i am here and posting about the beer. i believe that for 9 out of 10 people, it gets real tiring living on the extremes (i.e. fully corporate or fully dirtbag). you trade stressors in one for stressors in the other. ultimately, both prove to be fairly unsustainable for most people. i think that the most sustainable life (one that can be lived for many, many years and still allow you to be fully satisfied) balances the two - but that takes a conscious effort to not let yourself get sucked too close to either extreme. finding those decisions is not always easy or clear. although finding where you are most happy on this continuum will be different for everyone i guess...

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By NickinCO
From colorado
Nov 9, 2012
after the hard stuff, into cruiser hands.
addicted2alpine wrote:
maui coco porter! yes, that is my favorite beer! had plenty of that in san diego but unfortuanetly they dont have it on offer in norway. anyone wanna send me some? haha! i know i am keeping this thread off topic (as the op asked for real advice from those who have given up the 'comfort' life for the 'simple' life) but i will throw my 2 cents in since i am here and posting about the beer. i believe that for 9 out of 10 people, it gets real tiring living on the extremes (i.e. fully corporate or fully dirtbag). you trade stressors in one for stressors in the other. ultimately, both prove to be fairly unsustainable for most people. i think that the most sustainable life (one that can be lived for many, many years and still allow you to be fully satisfied) balances the two - but that takes a conscious effort to not let yourself get sucked too close to either extreme. finding those decisions is not always easy or clear. although finding where you are most happy on this continuum will be different for everyone i guess...


I completely agree. Moving from Chicago to Colorado, yet still having a professional job to be able to afford a mortgage, etc, and have a good amount of time off his huge. You have to have balance! The same job in Chicago was too much because there was no relief. Out here it's not an issue.

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By Olaf Mitchell
From Paia, Maui, Hi,
Nov 9, 2012
rockerwaves
addicted2alpine wrote:
maui coco porter! yes, that is my favorite beer! had plenty of that in san diego but unfortuanetly they dont have it on offer in norway. anyone wanna send me some? haha! i know i am keeping this thread off topic (as the op asked for real advice from those who have given up the 'comfort' life for the 'simple' life) but i will throw my 2 cents in since i am here and posting about the beer. i believe that for 9 out of 10 people, it gets real tiring living on the extremes (i.e. fully corporate or fully dirtbag). you trade stressors in one for stressors in the other. ultimately, both prove to be fairly unsustainable for most people. i think that the most sustainable life (one that can be lived for many, many years and still allow you to be fully satisfied) balances the two - but that takes a conscious effort to not let yourself get sucked too close to either extreme. finding those decisions is not always easy or clear. although finding where you are most happy on this continuum will be different for everyone i guess...

BIG+1 from this side!

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By alpinglow
From city, state
Nov 10, 2012
I wallowed through college until I was 26, taking multiple semesters off to climb.

Graduated, got some jobs doing climber boy stuff, never made more than like 11k in a year. Never wanted for anything.

Got to be 29 and was sort of lost. Fell a bit out of love with climbing, and had to face the fact I hid within climbing and the simple life.

Learned from that.

Met my wife when I was 30. Got lucky and found an industry that would accept my odd skill set.

Found out I wasn't burned out from wasting my 30s in the corporate world.

Crushing grown up life currently after thinking I would ultimately wind up in the bottom of a crevasse chewing my tongue off to make it end faster.

Life is so much richer now on so many levels.

I don't regret a day in any chapter of my life. Search hard, find your tao, don't settle.

Have a look around the corner...GO HARD.

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By kirra
Nov 10, 2012
the Simpler Life -a challenge even in Colorado. This week we're fighting to keep a horse farm from turning into another giant shopping mall. Greed complicates life no matter where you go remember to ~KISS~


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By Olaf Mitchell
From Paia, Maui, Hi,
Nov 10, 2012
rockerwaves
This is simple and it makes since to me.
This is simple and it makes since to me.

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By Alpinisto
From Connecticut
Nov 14, 2012
Dana Marie wrote:
I discovered climbing in my forties, and, like most people, it changed my life. I quit running a company in nyc, sold my apartment and moved upstate to be closer to the gunks. I was able to climb almost exclusively for four years. It was incredibly liberating to have such freedom to explore my new found passion. Now, I live in a rental and commute into the city occasionally as a freelancer. I live on a lot less and in my free time I not only climb, but paint and do yoga. It is a much less secure but far happier environment. It is simpler. Everyone's journey is different. I would suggest you look at what you really NEED. And I would look at the rest of the world...and see what 75 percent of the world survives on and compare that to your circumstances. Like an earlier poster said...this is not a dress rehearsal. We are all going to die no matter what. The real question is how do you want to live! Peace, Dana


I also came to climbing later in life (around 40) and have become passionate about it. I'm all for trying to live with less "stuff" -- an argument...um, sorry..."discussion" that I have with my wife every year at Christmastime -- and would have no problem paring life down to make more room/time/money for climbing.

Question for Dana: do you have a spouse/partner (if so, do they also climb?) and, more importantly, do you have kids? I have both, and I think it would be much easier for a single person to live simply/live a climbers life than a family guy like me.

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By JeffL
From Salt Lake City
Nov 14, 2012
This thread's super interesting. I just finished a 2 month long rock climbing trip, touring Devils Tower, Yosemite, Red Rocks, and Indian Creek. This was my first experience of the dirt bag lifestyle. I lived out of my tent from April 17th to November 11th, and I've now returned to Colorado for the snow season. I teach at a big Corporate Resort, but supporting myself through snowboarding is great.

On my climbing trip, I met lots of people who plan out their next job by how much money they will be spending and how much they have while they are not working. With a strict work hard play hard policy, discipline and a good resume the simpler life is very possible.

It's amazing how nothing: financial obligations or otherwise are on your mind while climbing a long multipitch climb with a grueling approach. You realize how simple life actually is, when water is the only thing you want.

So my conclusion is that giving it all up is not necessary. You can have the best of both worlds. I just returned to civilization 4 days ago. Now I get to work a job I enjoy, and start saving up for my next climbing adventure!

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By Ezekiel Thornton
From Akron, Ohio
Nov 14, 2012
Top of Castleton
On March 15th 2011 I went out west to some place called moab to meet a friend. I had been working a full time job and had a lot of money saved up. Bought a pop up camper on my way out west and pulled it with my diesel dully truck. My exp of climbing before was gym climbing for 6 months, some bouldering in Athens Ohio, 1 weekend at the new and red and 1 lame'ish week in new mexico. Spent 3 months learning the life style of a "dirtbag" for I was solo on my trip. It was fascinating, learned bucket loads about myself and priceless skills. After arriving back I couldn't stop thinking about it and was planning my next escape from work. I finally settled in as a weekend warrior and really enjoy it.

1 thing I really want along with my 20 days vacation is 1 month off to take a good climbing trip every year. Make it 2 months and I know for sure I'd be satisfied hahaha.

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By Eric Coffman
Nov 15, 2012
mountainlion
"I finally settled in as a weekend warrior and I really enjoy it"

^^^^THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT^^^^DOING WHAT YOU ENJOY!!!!!

It's different for everybody. Some like the daily grind and climb sporadically, some dirtbag from crag to crag and all the rocks in between. As long as your having fun your doing it right.

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