To backclip or not to backclip
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I recently got back from a trip to Red Rocks and was greeted with tons of criticism when I entered my local climbing gym. People believed that I backclipped the first bolt. I am trying to defend myself and my honor. I even have more evidence to prove that I am not guilty, but for now, I want you (Mountain Project Members) to be the judge. |
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Here is another photo. Note* It is the first quickdraw |
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definitely back clipped |
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Its hard to see from your first photo, but there are only two options... |
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Sometimes those BD draws get a bit twisted. It's hard for me to tell from these photos. It looks like in the first photo you are backclipped and in the 2nd you are not. |
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Yo Brent, you shouldn't need to post a photo on MP to figure out if you'd backclipped. It should feel wrong as soon as you clip. I suggest practicing clipping techniques until you've got them dialed. Won't take too long. |
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What's your belayer saying to you? "Dude, you are totally back clipped." |
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Looks backclipped to me. |
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Your chalk bag is on backwards as well. |
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definitely looks like you butchered that first clip, although on the plus side, at least the rope would be molesting the beam side and not the gate side if you peeled. |
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Pat Erley wrote:Your chalk bag is on backwards as well.Agree, chalk bag is definitely back clipped. Please refer to my post in the dumb things climbers have said thread. mountainproject.com/v/gener… @slim ... very clever. |
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Yes, my chalk bag bag is on backwards, a strap broke on it the day before on Mescalito (Cat in the Hat). I just put it on real quick. |
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No. |
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Brent Butcher wrote:This photo helped save face, so to my credit do I deserve to have my honor restored?You might have, that is until you admitted it took three of you 5min to determine the first clip on a pretty plumb-line route. |
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So why start this thread by posting the two not-so-good pics and leave out the one that answers the question? |
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The most interesting aspect of this thread is that there's a gym full of backseat climbers who have incredible ESP! You enter the room and SHAZAAM they know how you clipped while climbing elsewhere. |
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You spun the biner around... classic move. |
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How does you changing direction and not being back clipped in the last picture negate the fact that you are back clipped in the first? What am I missing? |
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At first blush, it looks backclipped, because its hard to see which direction the draw is twisted. |
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Brian in SLC wrote: Also, your belayer is belaying palm up with his brake hand in a position that wouldn't hold a fall... -1 for the belayer's loafters with white socks, too. That's a fashion faux pas. Even if they're those ratty looking things Sharma shills for...(har har). Cheers!Look on the bright side Brent had you fallen and decked it would have been your belayers fault! I saw a guy try to catch a fall with that hand orientation and ended up dropping climber and sustaining massive rope burns on both hands (since he was trying to grab the strand going up with left hand). Freedom of the hills, and, "Mountaineers Handbook", (the latter being kind of techy) are both good resources if your trying to break out of your plastic pulling gym world! |
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what i said was dickish - good for you for climbing and welcome to MP.com. |