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By mattso
From grand canyon, AZ
May 16, 2008
Approach to Mt Sill

Marc Horan wrote:
Hold the CTRL button and click is the right-click equivalent. --Marc

You are the man, I've had a mac for 1 year now and couldn't figure right click out. I would tell other people that right click didn't exist. I am so happy!!!!

By rpc
May 16, 2008

both Brad.

By Kateri Ahrendt
From Boulder, CO
May 16, 2008
Steamboat Springs, CO.

Mike Morley wrote:
TRS-80. I recently upgraded from the cassette drive to the double-sided "floppy disk".


Hey Mike, when's the Atari party? And will it be Frogger or Pac Man playoffs?

By Mike Morley
Administrator
From Oakland, CA
May 16, 2008
At Potrero Chico, New Years 2007/08

You've got Frogger? Dang! I just have Pong.

Edit: http://www.freefrogger.org/ -- sweet!

By Mark Cushman
From Erie, CO
May 16, 2008
Leading Diamond In The Crack (5.6) at the Red

Linux (Ubuntu).

Could one of the admins post the stats for OS/Browser? I wonder if Macs really do have the majority of visitors here or they are just more vocal users.

By Allen C.
From Houston, TX
May 19, 2008

One more Mac.

(By the way, is it just me or don't the "unread post' indicators not work right?)

By Jim Amidon
May 19, 2008
What ??

Mac at home and after years of PC couldn't be happier with the superior machine that Mac is.

At work, well well, Dell and PC same old clunky-ness......

Mac's are SMOOTH------PC are clunky.....

By Not So Famous Old Dude
From Denver, CO
May 19, 2008

Commodore 64 any good?

By Kirk Miller
From Golden, CO
May 19, 2008
Bugaboos, 1978<br />Photo by Ken Trout

Mac, but I also run Windows XP on a "virtual computer" on my Mac for programs that won't run on a Mac.

By IanA
From Durango, CO
May 19, 2008
To protect the slab or not. That is the Question. not my photo.

Mac at work. PC at home (hope it dies soon so I can get a mac.)

By Ryan Malarky
From Denver, CO
May 19, 2008

Just made the switch to Mac about a month ago when my PC died for the third time. Although it was forced on me, the Mac is a thousand times better than PC.

By Paz Ramirez
From CO
May 19, 2008

The artsy Mac world feels a need to be vocal about their cute little machines. I always hear mention of it's ease of use and it's intuitive user interface. But when I sit down with the MAC crowd and pose a 'dilemma' and ask for their MAC solution, it's often a 'log into my virtual Windows OS from my MAC and resolve dilemma' or a 'there is no right-click' kind of a response (no solution). Have fun on those cute machines, funny commercials too. Good luck in the business world!

From the Blackberry on the bus heading to Eldo!

By lbishop
From Colorado Springs, CO
May 19, 2008
Self Portrait

Mac at home, PC at work (damn corporate Emerica!)

By Will Eccleston
May 19, 2008

Mac and Mac. Regarding the color difference of photos on Mac vs. PC - The mac defaults to a different Gamma and Color Temperature standard than the PC, and one that is usually preferred by designers of media. It is definitely yellower, with deeper blacks. This can be changed to more closely resemble the settings of a PC in System Preferences>Displays (not recommended though). As far as right-clicking is concerned, any Mac that's been shipped for quite awhile now shipped with a Mighty Mouse, which WILL right-click, if you just mash on the right side of the mouse. It is not, however, the most ergonomic of mice. I am a die-hard Mac fan, but I'm using a Microsoft ergonomic mouse, and love it.

Now if I could just spend less time in front of the computer and more time on the cliff face...

By Tim Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
May 20, 2008
Looking down from Notchtop

Paz Ramirez wrote:
The artsy Mac world feels a need to be vocal about their cute little machines.


I've used Macs at home and work mostly, but I hear you about evangelical rants about the virtues of this machine or that one. To me they are all just appliances.

That said, the OS behind Macs (UNIX) is pretty damn nice. Who cares about hardware anymore? We want a box that will boot and do Stuff.

By kirra
May 20, 2008
get gassed Rifle, CO

Will Eccleston wrote:
Now if I could just spend less time in front of the computer and more time on the cliff face...

h'well yeah -- mini video clip from South Park on all of this

By Brad Brandewie
May 20, 2008
On the way to the top of Owen's first peak.<br /><br />(Engineer Mountain near Durango)

I agree that the Mac crowd is more outspoken about their love of Macs and their disdain for PCs than vice-versa.

When I look at the traffic statistics for piquaclimber.com for example, about 70% of folks that come to piquaclimber are on PCs. (these numbers are provided by webmasters.com who hosts my site)

Operating Systems - Hits - Percent
Windows - 21954 - 69.1 %
Macintosh - 4820 - 15.1 %
Unknown - 3472 - 10.9 %
Linux - 1328 - 4.1 %


To the ADMINS...
Can you post some data on the average platform on which MountainProject is viewed? It would be helpful for those who post pictures to know our target audience.

Thanks,
Brad

By Jed Pointer
From Boulder, CO
May 20, 2008

Mac has roughly 5% of the PC and laptop market right now. That's about where they were 12-15 years ago, dropping to a low of 2-3% in the later 90's when they had to take a bunch of cash and IP (MS Office for Mac) from Microsoft to stay alive. The sites I have statistics for follow this. I would guess piquaclimber is higher on Mac perhaps because that is what you are doing your own site editing with.

By Brad Brandewie
May 20, 2008
On the way to the top of Owen's first peak.<br /><br />(Engineer Mountain near Durango)

Jed Pointer wrote:
I would guess piquaclimber is higher on Mac perhaps because that is what you are doing your own site editing with.



Not sure I follow this? Why would the platform on which I develop the site have an effect on what platform people are using when they view it?

Also, I edit piquaclimber on a PC.

By Jed Pointer
From Boulder, CO
May 20, 2008

Depends how you edit, I guess. A lot of people edit the contents of the site directly, which means you are "hitting" the site with your own computer a lot. Why are Mac hits on your site so high? I think it is unusual and not representative. Maybe you have a secret admirer with a Mac. Maybe Mac users are more prone to surfing because nobody uses those things for real work. Who knows.

By Andrew Gram
Administrator
From Denver, CO
May 21, 2008
Andrew Gram

Who edits their site directly through http unless they are using a CMS?

I don't think Brad's numbers are skewed at all. I'm not sure what the numbers are here now, but that is pretty close to the mac/windows breakdown climbingmoab.com had before the sister site merge. The numbers were far higher for a web startup I worked at a year ago, but that is also normal since mac users tend to be more interested in web 2.0 experiments.

Plenty of people use Mac for real work. Hell, at least one Lockheed Martin data center i've been in uses a lot of Apple hardware for data storage. I spent the last two years as a consultant for places like Lockheed, the Coast Guard, the Navy, mining companies, utilities, ad railroads and I did all of the consulting work on a Mac. I essentially never booted into Windows except to do a little testing - no troubles at all interoperating with Office, mail.app, address book, and iCal worked fine with exchange, and it was a big bonus to have a good shell and X windows server built in.

After giving presentations and demos on two separate occasions, I had a Coast Guard Lieutenant Commander and a Navy Captain ask me loads of questions about my mac, and then follow up later to say they bought one and they love it. They were about the furthest thing from the stereotpyical mac fanboy that could exist.


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