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Oct 25, 2012
Alex Whitman wrote:
Wait. What the heck is this? Shock Absorber Am I supposed to untie below my sketchy gear placement and thread this onto the rope?


No, it goes on a separate piece of pre-threaded rope. You clip the device and one end of the rope, and the other end is left free with a stopper knot.. Works kinda like a Kong KISA, and it may be easier to understand if you think of it as an extendible draw.

Aric Datesman
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Oct 25, 2012
Garret Nuzzo-Jones wrote:
The entire point of ice climbing is to outspend every other sport on the planet. You win when you have ice tools more valuable than your house.


Ever heard of sailing?
DannyUncanny
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Oct 25, 2012
A Very Not Snowy Christmas...
DannyUncanny wrote:
Ever heard of sailing?


Hahaha... that's great - rock climbing has nothing on sailing as far as costs go.

there's a reason it's called a boat = Bust Out Another Thousand
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CaptainMo wrote:
Hahaha... that's great - rock climbing has nothing on sailing as far as costs go. there's a reason it's called a boat = Bust Out Another Thousand


"If there is money in the savings or checking account, the boat is not finished."
Brendan Blanchard
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Oct 25, 2012
This is a novel auto blocking belay device.  I thi...
Aric Datesman wrote:
No, it goes on a separate piece of pre-threaded rope. You clip the device and one end of the rope, and the other end is left free with a stopper knot.. Works kinda like a Kong KISA, and it may be easier to understand if you think of it as an extendible draw.

So wait this thing is supposed to replace a screamer?

The shock absorbtion comes from dynamic rope tightenting through the bends this thing creates? Wouldnt a figure 8 on a bight or Butterfly do about the same absorbing as that? What am I missing.

Signed: The truly ignorant.
Rick Blair
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Oct 25, 2012
Rick Blair wrote:
So wait this thing is supposed to replace a screamer? The shock absorbtion comes from dynamic rope tightenting through the bends this thing creates? Wouldnt a figure 8 on a bight or Butterfly do about the same absorbing as that? What am I missing. Signed: The truly ignorant.


My limited understanding is that during a fall, a small amount of rope is pulled through the device to lessen the impact force on the system.

See (scroll about 1/2 way for images):
kong.it/doc408.htm
Randy Aristotle
From fort collins, co
Joined Oct 8, 2012
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Oct 25, 2012
^^^ What Randy said. Above a set force (determined by rope diameter) the rope will feed through the device to lessen the impulse of the fall just like a screamer. (side note re: impulse- the whole "screamer absorbs energy" thing is bunk... It just broadens the amount of time the force is applied over, thereby reducing the peak. No energy is absorbed or disapated, aside from what little is converted to heat) Aric Datesman
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Oct 25, 2012
It looks like one of those via feratta self belay doohickeys.

Get you some plastic nuts. Yes please.
John Husky
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Oct 25, 2012
Randy Aristotle wrote:
This has yielded some very amusing commentary. I feel a bit guilty now that I sent that link to the OP, and he had the compassion and balls to ask about it publicly :)

Dirty trick. But hilarious.
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Oct 25, 2012
John Husky wrote:
It looks like one of those via feratta self belay doohickeys.


I think that's exactly what it's for, probably why it is shown threaded with a piece of rope with two bights on the end, for clipping to the via ferrata cable.

The original ice axe thingy webpage says they are just 14" long, so I think they're supposed to be like grappling claws for ninjas, except of course you'd think ninjas would want them in black rather than painted orange. Although come to think of it, these must be for SNOW ninjas, so should be white.

I know you're saying you've never seen a snow ninja. That's exactly the way the snow ninjas like it!
bobbin
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Oct 26, 2012
Kilroy
could these possibly be axes for those wild speed ice climbing events? look sorta similar if you watch the youtube videos...look sketch as fawk though. Kilroywashere!
From Harrisonburg, Virginia
Joined Oct 27, 2009
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Oct 26, 2012
I know this is a bit off topic, but the Gear4rocks website has made me realized why bolted cracks are the norm in Europe, if that was the gear I was thinking about, I'd think trad climbing was super dangerous! John D
Joined Nov 24, 2010
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Nov 4, 2012
Toofast
Woodchuck ATC wrote:
I'm waiting for them to knit their own ropes out of yak hair.


LOL funny shit!
Geir
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Nov 4, 2012
Ray Pinpillage wrote:
In mother Russia, ice tools you!


I just spit up my drink.
Drew Gibson
From Frisco, CO
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Nov 6, 2012
North Buttress Mt. Hunter, AK
Those tools look kinky AK123
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