By Aric Datesman
Oct 25, 2012
| Alex Whitman wrote: Wait. What the heck is this? Shock Absorber Am I supposed to untie below my sketchy gear placement and thread this onto the rope?
No, it goes on a separate piece of pre-threaded rope. You clip the device and one end of the rope, and the other end is left free with a stopper knot.. Works kinda like a Kong KISA, and it may be easier to understand if you think of it as an extendible draw.
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By DannyUncanny
Oct 25, 2012
| Garret Nuzzo-Jones wrote: The entire point of ice climbing is to outspend every other sport on the planet. You win when you have ice tools more valuable than your house.
Ever heard of sailing? |
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By CaptainMo
Administrator
Oct 25, 2012
| DannyUncanny wrote: Ever heard of sailing?
Hahaha... that's great - rock climbing has nothing on sailing as far as costs go.
there's a reason it's called a boat = Bust Out Another Thousand |
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By Brendan Blanchard
From Strafford, NH
Oct 25, 2012
| CaptainMo wrote: Hahaha... that's great - rock climbing has nothing on sailing as far as costs go. there's a reason it's called a boat = Bust Out Another Thousand
"If there is money in the savings or checking account, the boat is not finished." |
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By Rick Blair
From Denver
Oct 25, 2012
| Aric Datesman wrote: No, it goes on a separate piece of pre-threaded rope. You clip the device and one end of the rope, and the other end is left free with a stopper knot.. Works kinda like a Kong KISA, and it may be easier to understand if you think of it as an extendible draw.
So wait this thing is supposed to replace a screamer?
The shock absorbtion comes from dynamic rope tightenting through the bends this thing creates? Wouldnt a figure 8 on a bight or Butterfly do about the same absorbing as that? What am I missing.
Signed: The truly ignorant. |
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By Randy Aristotle
From Orchard Park, NY
Oct 25, 2012
| Rick Blair wrote: So wait this thing is supposed to replace a screamer? The shock absorbtion comes from dynamic rope tightenting through the bends this thing creates? Wouldnt a figure 8 on a bight or Butterfly do about the same absorbing as that? What am I missing. Signed: The truly ignorant.
My limited understanding is that during a fall, a small amount of rope is pulled through the device to lessen the impact force on the system.
See (scroll about 1/2 way for images):
www.kong.it/doc408.htm |
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By Aric Datesman
Oct 25, 2012
| ^^^ What Randy said. Above a set force (determined by rope diameter) the rope will feed through the device to lessen the impulse of the fall just like a screamer. (side note re: impulse- the whole "screamer absorbs energy" thing is bunk... It just broadens the amount of time the force is applied over, thereby reducing the peak. No energy is absorbed or disapated, aside from what little is converted to heat) |
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By John Husky
Oct 25, 2012
| It looks like one of those via feratta self belay doohickeys.
Get you some plastic nuts. Yes please. |
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By AThomas
Oct 25, 2012
| Randy Aristotle wrote: This has yielded some very amusing commentary. I feel a bit guilty now that I sent that link to the OP, and he had the compassion and balls to ask about it publicly :)
Dirty trick. But hilarious. |
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By bobbin
Oct 25, 2012
| John Husky wrote: It looks like one of those via feratta self belay doohickeys.
I think that's exactly what it's for, probably why it is shown threaded with a piece of rope with two bights on the end, for clipping to the via ferrata cable.
The original ice axe thingy webpage says they are just 14" long, so I think they're supposed to be like grappling claws for ninjas, except of course you'd think ninjas would want them in black rather than painted orange. Although come to think of it, these must be for SNOW ninjas, so should be white.
I know you're saying you've never seen a snow ninja. That's exactly the way the snow ninjas like it! |
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By Kilroywashere!
From Harrisonburg, Virginia
Oct 26, 2012
| could these possibly be axes for those wild speed ice climbing events? look sorta similar if you watch the youtube videos...look sketch as fawk though. |
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By John D
Oct 26, 2012
| I know this is a bit off topic, but the Gear4rocks website has made me realized why bolted cracks are the norm in Europe, if that was the gear I was thinking about, I'd think trad climbing was super dangerous! |
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By Geir
From Tucson, AZ
Nov 4, 2012
| Woodchuck ATC wrote: I'm waiting for them to knit their own ropes out of yak hair.
LOL funny shit! |
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By Drew Gibson
From Frisco, CO
Nov 4, 2012
| Ray Pinpillage wrote: In mother Russia, ice tools you!
I just spit up my drink. |
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By AK123
From Chapel Hill, NC
Nov 6, 2012
| Those tools look kinky |
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