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By Tim Heid
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Feb 6, 2012
Just as a note for alternative descents for most climbs on the wall if climbs below are occupied:
In addition to being able to walk off the back and around there are 3 sets of anchors that are accessible from the top.
The Phantom is the climber's left most and only requires one double rope rap to the base.
Renaissance Direct has anchors up top that are located right in the middle of the wall and requires two 70m single rope rappels(1 60m will not make it).
Hanging Garden's has the anchors most people will use and requires two double rope raps.
From: Cave Creek/Preskitt, AZ
Mar 31, 2012
Thanks for posting that info Tim. I know a lot of people have been needing that.
I was actually wondering why there are only 7 routes under this area? There are 20 routes for Gardener's Wall alone in Marty's guide. I think an updated list is needed, including the condition of the routes. If you've climbed a route not listed here, recently, I think the Phoenix climbing community would definitely appreciate your addition of the route on here. I'll try to tick a good amount of routes, besides the ultra-classics, on Gardener's Wall to update this area before the temps get out of control.
Thanks and happy climbing!
From: Flagstaff, AZ
Apr 24, 2014
We climbed a few routes to the right of Hanging Gardens (We had no guide book, or topo) and honestly got in some very hairy terrain. The climbing and pro wasn't too bad, but a good chunk of the rock that had older bolts near by was severely fractured, loose, and flakey. Wile rapping off some belay station I stepped on a flake and it collapsed sending a good child sized chunk of thin rock down the face.
Just a reminder to be very careful and thoughtful both while climbing, and rappelling.